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Old 03-09-2010, 11:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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if it takes you longer than 8-10 seconds to strap in one foot...you should be skiing. And if your girlfriend is too impatient to wait 8-10 seconds for you...you should get a new girlfriend.
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edit: ^^^ lol, you said almost the exact same thing as me...didnt see that when i posted.

is your girlfriend so impatient that she cant wait 10 seconds for you to put your bindings on? it shouldnt take more than 10 seconds, and thats if you have to stop/sit down to do it.
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Old 03-10-2010, 09:27 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 03-10-2010, 11:53 PM   #24 (permalink)
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edit: ^^^ lol, you said almost the exact same thing as me...didnt see that when i posted.

is your girlfriend so impatient that she cant wait 10 seconds for you to put your bindings on? it shouldnt take more than 10 seconds, and thats if you have to stop/sit down to do it.
riiiight??? he acts like strapping in one foot is like disarming a bomb. just kick your heal edge in until your stable, move the strap and put your foot in, lean down and crank until they're tight, ride away. it may add another two seconds if you have to get snow out of the foot bed but its not a big deal. to each thier own though i guess.
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Old 03-11-2010, 08:50 AM   #25 (permalink)
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riiiight??? he acts like strapping in one foot is like disarming a bomb. just kick your heal edge in until your stable, move the strap and put your foot in, lean down and crank until they're tight, ride away. it may add another two seconds if you have to get snow out of the foot bed but its not a big deal. to each thier own though i guess.
I'm probably gonna regret feeding the troll, but... We can agree the majority of riders don't have the ability to put on a strap binding while standing up. Like most, I fall into this catagory, so from my standpoint I can choose a binding that has me sitting down everytime I get off the chair (why?), or I can leverage technolgy and go with another system that I don't have to. If there is technology that allows you the convenience of not sitting down or taking extra time to monkey with straps with no degredation of performance, wouldn't that seem like the logical choice?
Lets take all the points of your argument of strap bindings, but instead of strap snowboard bindings lets switch the product to a car with the door handle on the bottom of the car. I think this is a decent comparison, because with good enough balance a small number of people could open the door without actualy sitting down, and for those who do have to sit to open the door from under the car, it shouldn't take more that an extra 10-15 seconds, and you only have to deal with sitting down to get into the car.
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Again, if you can't get into strap bindings standing up, you are going to have problems with the hybrid models too. Just sayin'...
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Again, if you can't get into strap bindings standing up, you are going to have problems with the hybrid models too. Just sayin'...
Perhaps your right, I should be taking the Flows out this Saturday (weather permitting), we'll see how it goes.
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Again, if you can't get into strap bindings standing up, you are going to have problems with the hybrid models too. Just sayin'...
Somewhat agree but there's a little more effort involved with traditional strap-ins. Might just be my bindings but I often have trouble getting my foot back far enough into the heel of the binding - ankle strap is kind of short and there's sometimes not enough to latch onto so I can start cranking. I have to kick my foot back in the binding and then wind up loosing my balance

The Flows seem like they'd take care of that predicament since you slide your foot forward and just pop the back up (as far as I can tell, never used them). Seems like a lot less effort to me.

On the other hand, the old-style step-ins didn't always work well since you had to get everything lined up just right (blind, for the most part)... on ice, forget about it. The Flows appear to give you some leverage at least...
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Somewhat agree but there's a little more effort involved with traditional strap-ins. Might just be my bindings but I often have trouble getting my foot back far enough into the heel of the binding - ankle strap is kind of short and there's sometimes not enough to latch onto so I can start cranking. I have to kick my foot back in the binding and then wind up loosing my balance

The Flows seem like they'd take care of that predicament since you slide your foot forward and just pop the back up (as far as I can tell, never used them). Seems like a lot less effort to me.

On the other hand, the old-style step-ins didn't always work well since you had to get everything lined up just right (blind, for the most part)... on ice, forget about it. The Flows appear to give you some leverage at least...
I had very little trouble with Switch step ins, at times you had to clear the boot so it could fully engage, but a quick swipe across the board cleat was usually all it took. I had little to no trouble with engagement using the Switch system. If it was still available I would choose it over straps or Flows. IMO it was more user friendly with no performance downside, at least not at my level.
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Somewhat agree but there's a little more effort involved with traditional strap-ins. Might just be my bindings but I often have trouble getting my foot back far enough into the heel of the binding - ankle strap is kind of short and there's sometimes not enough to latch onto so I can start cranking. I have to kick my foot back in the binding and then wind up loosing my balance

The Flows seem like they'd take care of that predicament since you slide your foot forward and just pop the back up (as far as I can tell, never used them). Seems like a lot less effort to me.

On the other hand, the old-style step-ins didn't always work well since you had to get everything lined up just right (blind, for the most part)... on ice, forget about it. The Flows appear to give you some leverage at least...
I had very little trouble with Switch step ins, at times you had to clear the boot so it could fully engage, but a quick swipe across the board cleat was usually all it took. I had little to no trouble with engagement using the Switch system. If it was still available I would choose it over straps or Flows. IMO it was more user friendly with no performance downside, at least not at my level.
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