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Old 07-20-2010, 07:25 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Have you ever tried out flows? Personally I thought I would love them too and tried them for awhile and didnt really like them. I am not at all knocking flow though. They make great bindings and are a good company I am just saying they are not for everyone. I only had about 8hrs of experience with the nxts though so maybe I needed to get used to it more. But I just prefered traditional straps. Imo their pretty different and its something I would recomend maybe trying out first. I want to be clear though I am not hating on flow lol their perfectly fine. If you get them I hope you like them I am just saying they are alittle different feel wise.
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I have used the cinch. Like them, but my friend has broke them more than once.


Anyone use Flow M9-SE?
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Old 07-21-2010, 11:50 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I own both. I have Flow Fives and Cinch bindings (the cheapest ones -- I think that's CTS). The Cinch are TOO cheap. Big and bulky because of the construction material, heavy (significantly so) and unresponsive. I *love* the mechanical design though. I find the Cinch easier to get in and out of. My biggest complaint about the Flows is that the highback falls all the way horizontal as soon as it's opened, so you have to click it shut before you can skate -- otherwise your pushing leg smacks into it and over you go. I guess it's a minor irritation, but I wish the highback would spring upright when released.

Anyway, the Flows are on my board and the Cinch are on the shelf. I'd love to see if the more expensive Cinch are better material and maybe lighter.
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Old 07-21-2010, 01:14 PM   #14 (permalink)
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A lot of issues that people have with Flows are due to improper set up. As I have mentioned, it does take some fine tuning. Nowhere as much set up required with Contrabands though. Also, if you have spent most of your snowboarding life in traditional straps, the Flows are quite a drastic change. I have long favored traditional straps over Flow straps in respect to response. Traditional straps do give you better response... there is absolutely no doubt about that. Flows have come a long way in strap design though. I'm still not a fan of anything below the M9 series. Even though traditionals offer more response, Flows still offer more than enough. The biggest benefit of Flows for me other than the speed of entry is the pressure distribution. Although traditional straps offer more response, they start to cause pain on my feet after prolonged riding. I can ride Flows as hard and long as I want (that's what she said) and I'll wake up in the morning with no pain in my feet.

Like I said though, you might need to get used to them. You also need to play around with how you set up the straps for a while.

As for the highback issue, I don't really have that problem. I skate with my foot over the toe side of the board. I do skate heel side sometimes and all I have to do is kick the highback up. If your highback falls down that easily, you might need to tighten the cables.

I demoed the M9s. They are fine. Middle of the road flex good for all-around riding. Pretty light. I still prefer the NXT line though. I suggest looking for the SE series of the bindings. It mixes the traditional strap system with Flows'.
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Old 07-24-2010, 07:50 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have Flow M9's they are pretty good it took about 2 days of riding to get them dialed it, but the heel of my 32 boot would catch some times trying to get in the binding espically when Iam hiking a jump and need to put the board back on when the the trail is steep. It is also almost imposible to put them on in deep powder. If you plan on riding grommers all day I would get them.
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Old 07-24-2010, 08:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I have Flow M9's they are pretty good it took about 2 days of riding to get them dialed it, but the heel of my 32 boot would catch some times trying to get in the binding espically when Iam hiking a jump and need to put the board back on when the the trail is steep. It is also almost imposible to put them on in deep powder. If you plan on riding grommers all day I would get them.
Ever since Flow introduced their mini ratchet system, the powder issue has been resolved. You can strap in as if they are traditional bindings. The SE versions are even easier to strap into that way.
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I second the idea of trying K2 Autos.
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Old 07-26-2010, 08:18 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I second the idea of trying K2 Autos.
Have you demoed the 2011 Auto line? They are sick. They just might be my binding of choice next season. The new Labia lips on them are so much better than previous models.

Then again, the Rome 390 Boss looks mighty appealing too lol.
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