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lisevolution · 08-24-2010, 12:42 PM

I'm expecting the set-up time to be longer on any of the quick in/out bindings anyway so that doesn't really bother me. I just don't want to deal with a complicated mechanism like the Cinch's which are just overly complicated for something that shouldn't be. So as far as getting in/out of the Fastec's, from what I understand it's not like the Flows where it's just put your foot in and flip the highback up and lock it in. It seems like you also have to undo the ankle strap as well. Am I correct on that?

Cavman · 08-24-2010, 04:36 PM

No you are not correct. When the high back is lowdered it undoes the ankle buckle but does not open it. It simply releases the quick binding so the ankle strap is loose and your foot can slide all the way in without any resistance. When you raise and lock the highback you simply fold down the ankle buckle. (similar to a ski book buckle) When the ankle buckly folds down it tightens the ankle strap.

Watch the video
YouTube - SP Fastec Snowboard Bindings Demonstration - www.absolute-snow.co.uk

Leo · 08-25-2010, 06:59 AM

How are those fastecs in powder situations? Flows used to have a problem with powder situations, but they have since resolved that problem with their mini-ratchets. Can you undo the straps on fastecs so you can strap in while sitting down in powder?

Cavman · 08-25-2010, 06:54 PM

Did you look at the video? Yes you can undo the ankle strap on the opposite side to the quick release if you have to get out in Deep powder.

Forgot to mention the bindings are tool-less to set up. The base (on Slab1 models) are Aluminium and the discs are metal too. They have foam on both sides (between foot and binding base and between bapord and binding base). Totally mellow to ride on.

Leo · 08-26-2010, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cavman

Did you look at the video? Yes you can undo the ankle strap on the opposite side to the quick release if you have to get out in Deep powder.

Forgot to mention the bindings are tool-less to set up. The base (on Slab1 models) are Aluminium and the discs are metal too. They have foam on both sides (between foot and binding base and between bapord and binding base). Totally mellow to ride on.

Awesome. I did watch the video, but without sound. I didn't notice him undoing the straps. I'm at work though so my attention isn't completely focused on the vid

I think I'm going to start keeping an eye out for a discounted pair on ebay or something. I'm highly interested in these.

lisevolution · 08-26-2010, 04:08 PM

Yeah I think I'm going to try and find a pair of these for the upcoming season. I'm always open to new tech and uniqueness on the mountain when possible. The problem Leo is that they aren't that widely available as far as I can tell. I've already spoke to 2 shops that cary Gnu equipment and both told me they would have to special order me a set if I really wanted them. Not sure I want to do that when I can have a hands-on with the Autos or Flows...

Cavman · 08-26-2010, 09:22 PM

Contact SP Fastec or Gnu and find out who their distributors are.

I am lucky that my favourite boarding shop is also the national importer and distributor in Australia.

Leo · 08-27-2010, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisevolution

Yeah I think I'm going to try and find a pair of these for the upcoming season. I'm always open to new tech and uniqueness on the mountain when possible. The problem Leo is that they aren't that widely available as far as I can tell. I've already spoke to 2 shops that cary Gnu equipment and both told me they would have to special order me a set if I really wanted them. Not sure I want to do that when I can have a hands-on with the Autos or Flows...

Yea, I'm with you. Ever since Flows, I'm fascinated with quick strap bindings. Haven't tried the cinches yet (never interested me since they are like a Flow knock-off), but I have tried and love the Autos. Well, the 2011 Autos and their "Labia Lips."

HappyFace · 02-08-2011, 01:11 AM

Just wanted to add my 2 cents to the forum as it has been very helpful in me making my first purchases for a board. I have a bataleon Evil twin BTW

Binding: GNU agro ( I wanted flows initially but could never make it out to the vendor who had it) (Flows will be my next bindings)

Tested it out on one day at the mountains: In general - a quick entry binding like the flows or gnu whatever you may choose is worth the money (And if you argue they won't last long. Everything eventually breaks and I figure most boarders here have 2 or 3 boards with 2 or 3 bindings. My local shop has not seen one come back broken so I would assume the issue of breakage is not an issue.)

Getting off the lift and riding off in less than 20 seconds was an awesome feeling while everyone else is on their ass strapping in.

The cushioning was good.

Problems: The bindings do have alot of parts so adjusting is more time consuming. The plastic parts suck.

The toe wrap is very hard and does not conform to the boot and adjustment buckles are 'locks' and do not really slide far enough in to lock the boot in. Lastly the material is very noisy (creaks) against leather.

Lastly (The agro's and mutant are the same binding but costs 30 dollars more. For an environmentally friendly binding, the consumer is stuck paying for their 'green' initiative. Terrible idea in my mind.

Aside from those issues, when set properly the binding is very secure and responsive.

KIRKRIDER · 02-08-2011, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lisevolution

I'm expecting the set-up time to be longer on any of the quick in/out bindings anyway so that doesn't really bother me. I just don't want to deal with a complicated mechanism like the Cinch's which are just overly complicated for something that shouldn't be. So as far as getting in/out of the Fastec's, from what I understand it's not like the Flows where it's just put your foot in and flip the highback up and lock it in. It seems like you also have to undo the ankle strap as well. Am I correct on that?

You have to set them up the first time (at home), on the runs you just pull the highback up and go. Total time 6 seconds.
They are not heavier than a pair of Cartel.
In powder you use them as a traditional strap binding.

08-24-2010, 04:36 PM	#22 (permalink)
Cavman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 281	No you are not correct. When the high back is lowdered it undoes the ankle buckle but does not open it. It simply releases the quick binding so the ankle strap is loose and your foot can slide all the way in without any resistance. When you raise and lock the highback you simply fold down the ankle buckle. (similar to a ski book buckle) When the ankle buckly folds down it tightens the ankle strap. Watch the video YouTube - SP Fastec Snowboard Bindings Demonstration - www.absolute-snow.co.uk __________________ Ride Highlife 168 2011 \| K2 CTX 2010 Hammer Broadline 163W 2008 \| SP Fastec Trooper 2010 Hammer PCM C+ 161 2011 \| SP Fastec Brotherhood 2011 http://www.myfastec.com/videos/fastec-setup/ http://www.sp-united.com/bindings/

08-25-2010, 06:59 AM	#23 (permalink)
Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,212	How are those fastecs in powder situations? Flows used to have a problem with powder situations, but they have since resolved that problem with their mini-ratchets. Can you undo the straps on fastecs so you can strap in while sitting down in powder? __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

08-25-2010, 06:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
Cavman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 281	Did you look at the video? Yes you can undo the ankle strap on the opposite side to the quick release if you have to get out in Deep powder. Forgot to mention the bindings are tool-less to set up. The base (on Slab1 models) are Aluminium and the discs are metal too. They have foam on both sides (between foot and binding base and between bapord and binding base). Totally mellow to ride on. __________________ Ride Highlife 168 2011 \| K2 CTX 2010 Hammer Broadline 163W 2008 \| SP Fastec Trooper 2010 Hammer PCM C+ 161 2011 \| SP Fastec Brotherhood 2011 http://www.myfastec.com/videos/fastec-setup/ http://www.sp-united.com/bindings/

08-26-2010, 09:22 PM	#27 (permalink)
Cavman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Australia Posts: 281	Contact SP Fastec or Gnu and find out who their distributors are. I am lucky that my favourite boarding shop is also the national importer and distributor in Australia. __________________ Ride Highlife 168 2011 \| K2 CTX 2010 Hammer Broadline 163W 2008 \| SP Fastec Trooper 2010 Hammer PCM C+ 161 2011 \| SP Fastec Brotherhood 2011 http://www.myfastec.com/videos/fastec-setup/ http://www.sp-united.com/bindings/

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08-24-2010, 12:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
lisevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hicksville, NY Posts: 1,824	I'm expecting the set-up time to be longer on any of the quick in/out bindings anyway so that doesn't really bother me. I just don't want to deal with a complicated mechanism like the Cinch's which are just overly complicated for something that shouldn't be. So as far as getting in/out of the Fastec's, from what I understand it's not like the Flows where it's just put your foot in and flip the highback up and lock it in. It seems like you also have to undo the ankle strap as well. Am I correct on that?

08-26-2010, 04:08 PM	#26 (permalink)
lisevolution Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hicksville, NY Posts: 1,824	Yeah I think I'm going to try and find a pair of these for the upcoming season. I'm always open to new tech and uniqueness on the mountain when possible. The problem Leo is that they aren't that widely available as far as I can tell. I've already spoke to 2 shops that cary Gnu equipment and both told me they would have to special order me a set if I really wanted them. Not sure I want to do that when I can have a hands-on with the Autos or Flows...

02-08-2011, 01:11 AM	#29 (permalink)
HappyFace Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 3	Just wanted to add my 2 cents to the forum as it has been very helpful in me making my first purchases for a board. I have a bataleon Evil twin BTW Binding: GNU agro ( I wanted flows initially but could never make it out to the vendor who had it) (Flows will be my next bindings) Tested it out on one day at the mountains: In general - a quick entry binding like the flows or gnu whatever you may choose is worth the money (And if you argue they won't last long. Everything eventually breaks and I figure most boarders here have 2 or 3 boards with 2 or 3 bindings. My local shop has not seen one come back broken so I would assume the issue of breakage is not an issue.) Getting off the lift and riding off in less than 20 seconds was an awesome feeling while everyone else is on their ass strapping in. The cushioning was good. Problems: The bindings do have alot of parts so adjusting is more time consuming. The plastic parts suck. The toe wrap is very hard and does not conform to the boot and adjustment buckles are 'locks' and do not really slide far enough in to lock the boot in. Lastly the material is very noisy (creaks) against leather. Lastly (The agro's and mutant are the same binding but costs 30 dollars more. For an environmentally friendly binding, the consumer is stuck paying for their 'green' initiative. Terrible idea in my mind. Aside from those issues, when set properly the binding is very secure and responsive.