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Old 10-21-2010, 02:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default K2 Auto series... possibly the best out there.

I'm definitely a gear whore and have gotten my hands on alot of bindings these past few seasons. Recently I picked up a set of 2010 K2 autos, and while I haven't ridden them yet, I've mounted and strapped them on and am thoroughly impressed with their quality. Off the top of my head, I have experience with 2010 cartels (EST and regular), 2010 exiles, 08 rome 390's and 2009 390's, 2010 ride deltas, 09 union forces.

Aside from hiback stiffness (which can somewhat be adjusted with the forward lean) For me bindings are mostly about comfort, practicality and ease of use.

Here's my PERSONAL breakdown on the 2010 K2 autos versus others I've tried.

Weight: EST bindings excluded, these are the lightest regular mounting system bindings I've held. The burton cartels are on the lighter side as well, while the rome bindings are pretty damn heavy. Practically speaking though binding weight is something I only notice riding the lift and sometimes stomping landings.

Ratchets: I find ratchets with protruding tabs for unstrapping the easiest (like the Rides, Romes, and K2's) and k2's is the smoothest. Romes are very nice and Rides are OK... they sometimes stick. Burtons and Unions are a little more difficult to unstrap without the tabs, and Unions seem the worst of the bunch.

Straps: 390's, delta's and autos are ultra comfy, Cartel's hurt my feet after a while, exiles were better than the cartels. Unions were not bad. Rides toe strap is great, while all others were pretty good. Unions toe strap sucks for me. K2's auto system makes sense.. the only thing I'm worried about is durability, however they've already gone through a few generations and I haven't found any problems online yet (cross my fingers).

Cushion: Delta's, cartel's, autos have tons of padding and k2's is canted. Burton exiles is above average, Romes is average, and Unions padding sucks... i don't get why they did it the way they did.

Hibacks: cartels the stiffest and most agressive followed by the K2 autos then deltas... unions feel thin and flimsy. I find generally simple hiback adjusters the most reliable. The one found on the higher end Burton's that are flush with the hiback are a nightmare, and I've had the new rome adjusters loosen up on my many times. I ended up moving the older 08 390 system to my newer ones and all problems disappeared. I much prefer that style and the ride delta and burton exile type. K2 has done something different altogether and integrated the adjustment into inside heelcup area. It makes sense, but takes longer to set up. I'm not one to constantly adjust my hiback once its set, so I'm really liking this idea. Reduces weight and seems reliable.

Adjustability: Rome is hands down the best. Everything else is good, except unions suck.

Baseplates: I generally find stiffness can be adjusted. Little things I notice though are ride and rome provide under baseplate padding that seems to help with dampening and not marking up the boards. Burton baseplates seem to really dig into boards. I actually bent a Ride aluminum baseplate before when I triple-roll bailed going full speed. Having a size 11 foot puts me on the verge of sizing with alot of companies with Large and XL, a little bit.. IIRC, rome's go from size 9.5 - 14, Burton's large 10 and up, Ride XL is 11-13, K2 is 11-15, and union is 10-14.

Again I haven't actually ridden the K2 Autos yet, but so far the design and overall quality seem very impressive. If you can't tell already, I'm a big fan of Rome 390s and Ride Deltas, while Union is at the bottom of my list.
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Old 10-21-2010, 03:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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K2 Autos are good binders. A fair number of people on the forum have ridden on them including myself. I think I'd rather go with their normal strap options over the Auto. The last few I've demo'd have been good binders and they only seem to be getting better with the tech after a minor hiccup in the first years production.
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Any riding on the k2 autos yet? I am looking at buying some!
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Old 12-07-2010, 09:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've been riding the auto and auto evers for 2 seasons now. I love them, they hook me up! I ride the auto evers on my pow and all mountain board and the autos on my play board. Good stuff.
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You think the 2010 Autos rock? Wait til you try the redesigned toe strap on the 2011 models.
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My buddy got a set of the Auto Ever last season. He's one of the best rippers I know, but he doesn't seem to like them too much. His main complaint is that he can't get the toestrap to crank down as hard as he'd like, prob due to sizing. He got an XL to fit his boots, and has the cable maxed out as tight as possible already. Also the single cable for the toestrap seems flimsy and is bound to break eventually. Haven't tried them myself though.
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Sorry for reviving an old thread, but whats the different between the autos and auto evers? I'm thinking of purchasing 2009 autos. Thanks
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My buddy got a set of the Auto Ever last season. He's one of the best rippers I know, but he doesn't seem to like them too much. His main complaint is that he can't get the toestrap to crank down as hard as he'd like, prob due to sizing. He got an XL to fit his boots, and has the cable maxed out as tight as possible already. Also the single cable for the toestrap seems flimsy and is bound to break eventually. Haven't tried them myself though.
I have a set of last year's Auto Evers and was having issues with not being able to get the toestraps to tighten enough. I removed a few of the housing pieces so I could look at the cable and the cable goes through a fairly tight bend. In addition, it appeared dry. I applied a dab or two of bike grease and now the straps cinch up better. Maybe your friend has tried this fix but I thought I'd throw it out there just in case.

FWIW, the cable looks real similar to a standard bicycle brake cable, and while I've had the ends of bike cables fray, I've never had one completely snap. I don't think I've ever heard of a bike cable suddenly snapping in between anchor points. As long as nothing cuts the cable on the binding, I'd be surprised if one failed.
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Anyone have some tips on how to unstrap? I have the auto evers, which I love and have never had a problem with. Liked them so much I got my gf a pair of the auto agogos since she needed some new bindings. For some reason, the ratchets on hers are really hard to unfasten when unstrapping. Is she tightening them too much or did she just get a bad pair or is there something I'm missing? Bought them online and returning them is going to be a pain in the ass. Thanks for any help.
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Anyone have some tips on how to unstrap? I have the auto evers, which I love and have never had a problem with. Liked them so much I got my gf a pair of the auto agogos since she needed some new bindings. For some reason, the ratchets on hers are really hard to unfasten when unstrapping. Is she tightening them too much or did she just get a bad pair or is there something I'm missing? Bought them online and returning them is going to be a pain in the ass. Thanks for any help.
How long has she had them? Mine were a little sticky when new but after a few days of riding they broke in I guess. They're pretty easy to pop open now.
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