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Boat Shredder 11-16-2010 09:54 PM

de de dee me and these Damn Burton Cartels
 
So I originally ordered some Union Force SL bindings off the internet. Turns out that the bindings were too large so I returned them for a smaller pair. In the process, the clerk over the phone recommended the 2011 Burton cartel bindings. He convinced me to get them instead because they are 50 dollars cheaper, a lot lighter and more responsive. I couldn't help but agree with him and chose to get the Cartel bindings with a 50 dollar refund... YAY was my original thought.

Today, these Cartels came in the mail and the first thing I said was WTF.... These things are 100 percent plastic. Sliding my finger over the heel cup scratched them and I was uber bummed out that these fucking things were plastic. Also, the foam on the base and highback seem like they are made of the shittiest foam out there. The foam feels like its going to rub off after 10 days of riding.

Does anyone have some good news to tell me about the Cartels and why they are plastic? Any experienced users of the Cartels have some good feedback for me? I am tempted to fork out 50 more dollars again and get the Unions but I honestly don't know what to do right now. Help me out por favor

Sincerely,

Boat Shredder

Qball 11-16-2010 10:02 PM

I thought Cartels cost more than forces? Are you sure you got the Cartels and not the customs or something?

Boat Shredder 11-16-2010 10:13 PM

Burton Cartels are 230

Union Force SL's are 280

I ordered the Force SL, not the regular Force.

Nivek 11-16-2010 10:16 PM

All Burtons are all plastic. Same as K2 and Flux. Its not a bad thing. But Honestly I think the SL's are a better binding than the Cartels. I don't know why he said they were lighter, they shouldn't be. The foam is the same, EVA, but the Unions may be a "higher" quality EVA. You also have to take into consideration the stock forward lean of Burton.

I would say as far as performance, if you're going to be jibbing a fair amount the Cartels will be painfully annoying. If you're doing mostly freeriding, both will give you good performance but the Cartels might do a fair bit better.

Puggy 11-16-2010 10:18 PM

I unno man reading some reviews on the web a lot of reviews about the baseplate snapping. I just bought Exiles and those are Metal so I don't know what to tell ya big wheel.

Nivek 11-16-2010 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puggy (Post 328396)
I unno man reading some reviews on the web a lot of reviews about the baseplate snapping. I just bought Exiles and those are Metal so I don't know what to tell ya big wheel.

Whats Metal about them?

Reviews of SL's or Cartels snapping?

Boat Shredder 11-16-2010 10:31 PM

The Cartels are without a doubt lighter. I am worries the EVA injected foam will rub into my pants. My last burton bindings did that and they destroyed my pants with black smears. I don't want that.

MY BIG QUESTION THOUGH IS:

Who will pay 50 more dollars for the Force SL's? Are the Force's worth the extra money?

Nivek 11-16-2010 10:41 PM

In my opinion, Yes. Burton forward lean is torture for me. I hate it.

BurtonAvenger 11-16-2010 11:05 PM

Union Bindings = repackaged Drakes. You made the better choice and I highly doubt your "finger" scratched a composite Nylon/Plastic.

Nivek 11-16-2010 11:27 PM

I like my repackaged Drakes.


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