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Old 11-23-2010, 07:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Burtons system isn't baseless. Its got a pad between the board and the boot. Baseless hurt my feet after a day or 2 and I had to use much more energy to get on the edges for carves. Bases give you more leverage, its simple physics.

They should make a binding that lets the board flex under them like a baseless. The boardfeel was amazing on that system. It really let the board flex. But as I said, it was fatiguing.
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Burtons system isn't baseless. Its got a pad between the board and the boot. Baseless hurt my feet after a day or 2 and I had to use much more energy to get on the edges for carves. Bases give you more leverage, its simple physics.

They should make a binding that lets the board flex under them like a baseless. The boardfeel was amazing on that system. It really let the board flex. But as I said, it was fatiguing.
Not entirely true. Burton EST bindings can be baseless if you choose to remove the base padding. A lot of people don't realize that you can simply remove the base padding and ride directly on the board.

Did you try this method when you demoed an EST/ICS setup Vreck? I don't see how you didn't like it if you did remove the base padding seeing as how your boots are directly on the naked board. Maybe you can just drill your boots into the board then?
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Not entirely true. Burton EST bindings can be baseless if you choose to remove the base padding. A lot of people don't realize that you can simply remove the base padding and ride directly on the board.
Well you do have a point there.
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Anyway, I was hoping there were others who remember these and maybe (just maybe) there was someone who still had a pair kicking around. I used to have a pair of Bent Metal baseless, as well as a pair of Burton baseless, and I'd love to throw a pair back on my board. I know it's wishful thinking but figured I'd try and harness the power of the internet on this one.
Like the ones on the board in this pic?

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lol, I agree 100% regarding the low backs or no backs...I admit I dabbled in this too but just briefly to experiment as I've always liked a nice stiff upper boot and a good highback. I don't agree with the whole knee thing though as I never had sore feet, or knees and I rode baseless after having ACL reconstruction on one knee, patellar tendon on the other knee, and back surgery (motorcycle accident)...at least I don't recall anything significant. It's tough to accurately recall pain levels going back 15 years.

David, I haven't seen those before. The ones I had all had heel cups, and were adaptable to a regular 4x4 insert pattern. But if it works, it works.
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Old 11-28-2010, 08:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Something like this?



Had something similar on my Daniel Franck K2, back in '95 or something... I think they were made by Preston, but not sure, Sims also had their version in plactic...

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