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Trbo323 11-24-2010 12:14 PM

need some binding advise
ok so basically im a all mountain boarder, steep and deep in the morning, tree runs around lunch and ill hit some rails and boxes in the afternoon, nothing too crazy on the park side though.

currently im on a ride decade 158W (love it) with some K2 rangers, the rangers are showing some ware and im thinking its time to replace them. couple buddies of mine got some flows a while back and while i like the idea of them they never seemed to work great. they always have to bend their boards at funkey angels to get their feet into the bindings and it gets even worse in powder. But i like the idea of stepping in, click the back and go. so i was looking for something of an alternitive and came across the K2 cassette

i like the design of the cassette except for the weight, they seem to be on the heavy side. so i was wondering if there is anything out there like the cassette but a lighter weight version? something that is still some form of a step in but can hopefully be stepped into while sitting on snow?

i was also looking at the Ride contraband, im not entirely sold on the 1 strap idea but it would make getting in and out easier. anybody tried these yet? one thing i have always loved about ride bindings is how light they are

Leo 11-24-2010 12:33 PM

Modern Flow bindings got rid of the powder problem with their redesigned mini ratchets. After the initial setup, you can just undo the outer straps and ratchet down like normal bindings when in powder. The SE versions starting from 2010 takes this a step further by only employing two ratchets on the outer ladders. The two inner straps are tooless adjustments like with any other traditional binding.

Stepping into them does take a little getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, it is quite easy. Those weird angles (digging toe edge into the snow) isn't hard at all. I'd much rather do that than sit down or stay bent while strapping in. Modern Flows are also much lighter than they used to be. They rival some of the lightest bindings around now. The major selling point of Flows however is the pure comfort. They give your foot even pressure distribution to prevent soreness. You know, sometimes you ride hard all day and your feet start to hurt by your toe and ankle area? Non-issue with Flows. These are two of their top level bindings:

Flow NXT-ATSE Snowboard Bindings 2011

I own these (2010 version which is no different) and absolutely love them.
Flow NXT-FSE Mens Snowboard Bindings 2011

The SE versions are super easy to set up thanks to the above mentioned features. Just lace up, step in, ratchet down and kick back out. Now you're ready to shred!

Nivek 11-24-2010 12:36 PM

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Well the Nitranes will be a little better than the Contrabands for you style. They are good bindings, a couple guys I work with ride them and I'll have them on my LE this year.

Flows are honestly the best they've been this year. You might look at M9's.

When you say cassette, I'm guessing you meant Cinch. The Cassette is a womens park/freestyle binding and judging by your 158w Decade, I'm assuming you're a dude. Cinch's are meh in my opinion. Speed entry doesn't do much for me, the reason I ride Flows on one of my boards is for the comfort. I can strap in just fine and dandy fast, so the big thing with Flows for my is the one strap comfort.

Other two strappers to check would be Flux DS45's, Union Data's, or Ride Deltas.

Trbo323 11-24-2010 12:57 PM

o ya sorry i meant the cinch, got a little mixed up on K2s page, yes im a dude.

Ill take another look at the flows, both my buddies have ones that are a few years old so if they have improoved i may have to put them back in the running. still if anyone has tried the cinch id like a first hand opinion on them

o! one thing i forgot to mention, whatever i get I am looking for a adjustable toe ramp, its pretty important to me

Leo-im having a hard time finding the differences in those two bindings you posted besides the price, can you help me out with that?

Leo 11-24-2010 02:22 PM

Their videos are very thorough:

FLOW Snowboarding 2010/11

FLOW Snowboarding 2010/11

The main differences are in the highbacks. ATSE has a glass filled Nylon heel cup while the FSE has aluminum heelcup with nylon upper high back that moves independently.

I believe the ATSE is a bit lighter while the FSE is a bit stiffer. I loooooove my FSE bindings. Wouldn't trade them for any other binding. Well, I would trade for this years FSE since I like the color better :P

Trbo323 11-24-2010 02:48 PM

alright thanks leo, i am leaning towards the FSE mostly because of the color and the moving highback

Trbo323 11-24-2010 06:35 PM

alright, i went ahaed and got the FSEs, found them on sale for 280, thanks for the help guys

Leo 11-25-2010 06:46 AM


Originally Posted by Trbo323 (Post 332133)
alright, i went ahaed and got the FSEs, found them on sale for 280, thanks for the help guys

Nice! You must have found the 2010 version. Did you get the white and gold? That's the one I have :)

People mistake it for the Flow 24real all the time (it's Flow's real 24c gold plated binding).

Trbo323 11-26-2010 10:39 PM

white and gold? only two colors i found and that slow said they have are the red and blue

but if im wrong let me know, i may want to trade for a white and gold considering my board is white

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