Rome Targas or Burton Cartels EST for Burton Sherlock - Snowboarding Forum

FlipsideJohn · 12-23-2010, 05:34 PM

Hey guys so I decided to go with Burton Sherlock which I'll be picking up tomorrow. I am having trouble figuring out what bindings would be best for me. This will be my all mountain/powder stick. Does the EST feature on the Cartels have a benefit to them or is it just a way for Burton to make more money? Which binding would be best for me?

-Thanks

ev13wt · 12-23-2010, 06:09 PM

Burton binding never gave me any trouble. If its an est board with the channel, go for the est binding dude.

I have some targas. Overall great binding, but the quick release to adjust them is really retarded. My toe strap keeps falling off, and the other in the shop to exchange are just as weak and will open easily. Doesn't make me feel very safe...

purpleian907 · 12-23-2010, 06:16 PM

Definitely get the ESTs, different bindings on the channel kills the whole purpose of it. with the cartel ESTs you will get better board flex, feel, and dampening compared to other bindings on the channel.

FlipsideJohn · 12-23-2010, 06:35 PM

Ahh alright that's what I was thinking. Thank you boy for finalizing my decision.

Nivek · 12-23-2010, 07:24 PM

EST. But I would get Missions or Malavitas. Cartels are now annoyingly stiff.

Triple8Sol · 12-23-2010, 09:47 PM

The answer is: duh.

purpleian907 · 12-23-2010, 09:53 PM

Cartels are stiff but good for freeriding, missions are similar, but slightl softer, and malavitas have pretty good response but are geared towards park so whichever riding style you want, any could be good.

FlipsideJohn · 12-24-2010, 12:18 AM

Hmmm... I think I'll go with missions then if they're just a little bit softer.

Dano · 12-24-2010, 11:18 AM

Missions have a reputation of being lower end shit bindings dude. My money would be on the Cartels. The Sherlock is an amazing all-mountain board and the Cartel is an amazing all-mountain binding. I don't think it's going to be too stiff for you. Burton's stiff bindings are the Co2 and the C60. Cartels you can still ride park

DrnknZag · 12-24-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by FlipsideJohn

Hmmm... I think I'll go with missions then if they're just a little bit softer.

I'd definitely steer clear of the Missions in general, especially for an all-mountain/pow board. I've owned all three, Missions, Cartels, and Targas. I rode the Cartels for three seasons on my all-mountain stick. My only gripe is the ratchets kept breaking. The Targas are my current all-mountain binding and I LOVE them. So comfortable and very adjustable. My only complaint is the highback adjustment lock sometimes opens up on it's own.

If you want the EST adjustability, get the Cartels. Otherwise, I'd get a pair of the Targas.

12-23-2010, 05:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
FlipsideJohn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 184	Rome Targas or Burton Cartels EST for Burton Sherlock Hey guys so I decided to go with Burton Sherlock which I'll be picking up tomorrow. I am having trouble figuring out what bindings would be best for me. This will be my all mountain/powder stick. Does the EST feature on the Cartels have a benefit to them or is it just a way for Burton to make more money? Which binding would be best for me? -Thanks __________________

12-23-2010, 06:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
FlipsideJohn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 184	Ahh alright that's what I was thinking. Thank you boy for finalizing my decision. __________________

12-23-2010, 07:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,373	EST. But I would get Missions or Malavitas. Cartels are now annoyingly stiff. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

12-23-2010, 09:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Triple8Sol Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,686 Blog Entries: 1	The answer is: duh. __________________ 14 NeverSummer Proto HD . 13 Never Summer Cobra . 12 Gnu Rider's Choice C2PTX 13 Now IPO . 12 K2 Formula . 11 K2 Formula 13 NB x 686 580

12-24-2010, 12:18 AM	#8 (permalink)
FlipsideJohn Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 184	Hmmm... I think I'll go with missions then if they're just a little bit softer. __________________

12-23-2010, 06:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
ev13wt Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 446	Burton binding never gave me any trouble. If its an est board with the channel, go for the est binding dude. I have some targas. Overall great binding, but the quick release to adjust them is really retarded. My toe strap keeps falling off, and the other in the shop to exchange are just as weak and will open easily. Doesn't make me feel very safe...

12-23-2010, 06:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
purpleian907 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 18	Definitely get the ESTs, different bindings on the channel kills the whole purpose of it. with the cartel ESTs you will get better board flex, feel, and dampening compared to other bindings on the channel.

12-23-2010, 09:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
purpleian907 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 18	Cartels are stiff but good for freeriding, missions are similar, but slightl softer, and malavitas have pretty good response but are geared towards park so whichever riding style you want, any could be good.

12-24-2010, 11:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dano Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 729	Missions have a reputation of being lower end shit bindings dude. My money would be on the Cartels. The Sherlock is an amazing all-mountain board and the Cartel is an amazing all-mountain binding. I don't think it's going to be too stiff for you. Burton's stiff bindings are the Co2 and the C60. Cartels you can still ride park __________________ '12 Lib Tech T.rice / '12 Burton Cartels '10 CustomX / '10 Co2 EST Salomon F22

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