K2's Auto and Harshmellow Technology - Snowboarding Forum

suicidelemming · 01-19-2011, 05:32 PM

Just curious on people's experiences with these two parts of the K2 bindings. Does the toe strap in the auto provide good toe-side response? Does the harshmellow do a good job at absorbing shock and vibrations? Those kinds of questions.

Triple8Sol · 01-19-2011, 06:15 PM

Harshmellow works. Had it in my K2 T1 DB boots last season and have it in my K2 Gyrator board this yr.

LightninSVT · 01-19-2011, 08:38 PM

As far as the Autos go, I love the strap technology. Fast in and out, the strap definitely gets tight enough and has good control. I had a pair of 08s that were stolen a few weeks ago and just picked up a pair of 09's to replace them. I wasn't really feelin the chinsey looking toe strap on this years model. The ankle strap also barely has any padding on this years model. They are going for light, but I want comfort and control.

I don't think the 07/08 models had the Harshmellow but the new ones I picked up have it so I'm eager to see if it makes any difference. I do have the T1 boots with Harshmellow and I can say they are really comfortable after the initial break in. They are really big boots though and barely fit in the Auto Bindings.

Toecutter · 01-19-2011, 08:53 PM

I have last year's Auto Evers. I love the mechanism and I love the Harshmellow.

BurtonAvenger · 01-19-2011, 09:04 PM

Harshmellow saves knees!

ryannorthcott · 01-19-2011, 09:16 PM

i've got three layers of harshmellow and it definitely takes out a lot of the shock. i demo'ed the auto bindings and didn't like them as much as my formulas. maybe it's because i didn't have the mechanism dialed in perfectly but they were a bit tough to get on just right. ended up taking more time to finagle with the auto strap than it would have just to do it up normally.

Nivek · 01-19-2011, 09:32 PM

Harshmellow is something I miss in my Ride boots.

Toestraps do very little for toeside performance and your highback is a little more important for heelsides. The toestrap tightens enough to do its job.

Leo · 01-20-2011, 07:09 AM

Agree with Nivek. The main purpose of the toe strap is to keep your toes down. Over-toe straps are actually designed to push your heel back into the binding so it's actually helping to maximize response out of the highback which means it helps with heel-side. I've some occasions where my toe strap came off and I didn't notice until I went for a heelside and noticed my toe raising off the board.

However, I've also had ankle straps come off. I noticed those immediately.

2011 K2 Autos have a redesigned toe strap. It is much better than previous models because they are now independently adjustable. So no matter what boot you have, it's going to fit.

LightninSVT · 01-20-2011, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo

Agree with Nivek. The main purpose of the toe strap is to keep your toes down. Over-toe straps are actually designed to push your heel back into the binding so it's actually helping to maximize response out of the highback which means it helps with heel-side. I've some occasions where my toe strap came off and I didn't notice until I went for a heelside and noticed my toe raising off the board.

However, I've also had ankle straps come off. I noticed those immediately.

2011 K2 Autos have a redesigned toe strap. It is much better than previous models because they are now independently adjustable. So no matter what boot you have, it's going to fit.

Is that a change? I thought the toe strap was always independently adjustable?

john doe · 01-20-2011, 09:05 PM

He's talking about the two straps that make up the whole toe strap. They are now independently adjustable.

01-19-2011, 05:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
suicidelemming Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 33	K2's Auto and Harshmellow Technology Just curious on people's experiences with these two parts of the K2 bindings. Does the toe strap in the auto provide good toe-side response? Does the harshmellow do a good job at absorbing shock and vibrations? Those kinds of questions.

01-19-2011, 06:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
Triple8Sol Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,686 Blog Entries: 1	Harshmellow works. Had it in my K2 T1 DB boots last season and have it in my K2 Gyrator board this yr. __________________ 14 NeverSummer Proto HD . 13 Never Summer Cobra . 12 Gnu Rider's Choice C2PTX 13 Now IPO . 12 K2 Formula . 11 K2 Formula 13 NB x 686 580

01-19-2011, 09:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
BurtonAvenger Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mountains Posts: 8,021	Harshmellow saves knees! __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see it!

01-19-2011, 09:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,367	Harshmellow is something I miss in my Ride boots. Toestraps do very little for toeside performance and your highback is a little more important for heelsides. The toestrap tightens enough to do its job. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

01-20-2011, 07:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Leo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Detroit Area Posts: 6,200	Agree with Nivek. The main purpose of the toe strap is to keep your toes down. Over-toe straps are actually designed to push your heel back into the binding so it's actually helping to maximize response out of the highback which means it helps with heel-side. I've some occasions where my toe strap came off and I didn't notice until I went for a heelside and noticed my toe raising off the board. However, I've also had ankle straps come off. I noticed those immediately. 2011 K2 Autos have a redesigned toe strap. It is much better than previous models because they are now independently adjustable. So no matter what boot you have, it's going to fit. __________________ www.aGNARchy.com Reviews and David Z's rants

01-19-2011, 08:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
LightninSVT Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: DE Posts: 42	As far as the Autos go, I love the strap technology. Fast in and out, the strap definitely gets tight enough and has good control. I had a pair of 08s that were stolen a few weeks ago and just picked up a pair of 09's to replace them. I wasn't really feelin the chinsey looking toe strap on this years model. The ankle strap also barely has any padding on this years model. They are going for light, but I want comfort and control. I don't think the 07/08 models had the Harshmellow but the new ones I picked up have it so I'm eager to see if it makes any difference. I do have the T1 boots with Harshmellow and I can say they are really comfortable after the initial break in. They are really big boots though and barely fit in the Auto Bindings.

01-19-2011, 08:53 PM	#4 (permalink)
Toecutter Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Mt. Bachelor Posts: 1,512	I have last year's Auto Evers. I love the mechanism and I love the Harshmellow.

01-19-2011, 09:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
ryannorthcott Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Big White Posts: 112	i've got three layers of harshmellow and it definitely takes out a lot of the shock. i demo'ed the auto bindings and didn't like them as much as my formulas. maybe it's because i didn't have the mechanism dialed in perfectly but they were a bit tough to get on just right. ended up taking more time to finagle with the auto strap than it would have just to do it up normally.

01-20-2011, 09:05 PM	#10 (permalink)
john doe Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,245	He's talking about the two straps that make up the whole toe strap. They are now independently adjustable. __________________ 2011 Smokin Buck Ferton 155 2013 Flow NX2-SE 2013 Flow Hylite boa Burton Stagger pants/jacket Smith I/O

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