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Old 02-10-2011, 02:37 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a pair of XL 2010 Flow NXT-AT bindings. I used to wear and old pair of size 12 Morrow boots (I was very new to boarding and it turns out I was given very bad advice in the store)

I upgraded my boots this season to a pair of size 11 Burton Ambush. The size chart for the Flows show that XL=11+ but with the smaller Burton footprint there appears to be a significant gap between the side of the boot and the binding.

I ran them last week and i had no movement in the binding but perhaps thats cos i overtightened? I did have pain across the top of my front foot but i put that down to the boots being new.

Do you guys think the Flows are too big? and will that affect my riding experience. I still veryu new to snowboarding so any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 02-13-2011, 12:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It will not affect your ride when you will ride in duck stance or not-so-directional stance. If you will ride with a forwarded stance, +21 +30 degrees for example, you may get lack of force transmission. Maybe. In generally, a half inch gap is nothing to worry.
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Old 02-13-2011, 01:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I have Flows with Vans boots, 10 boots and binding L and I have a little gap on each side. Never been an issue for me, never any side-side movement and my Vans have a large footprint.
You can adjust the placement of the toe strap to the notch closets to the heel on the base plate this will give you good tight toe pressure, still allow you to enter the binding and will take some pressure of the power strap fixing the pain you were feeling.
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:47 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Any time you have foot pain it will affect your riding. If you need to over-tighten your straps in order to feel more secure, then perhaps they are too large. The best way to find out is to go to your local snowboard shop with your boots and see how a size down fits.

Flow bindings have many points of adjustability. While I'm on that subject, when I set up my flows I center my binding on the board, then I center my boot on the binding, then I check for equal toe and heel overnang. Then I adjust the straps and ensure the heel and toe ladders are angled properly for an ergonomic fit on my boot. Lastly, you can adjust forward lean where you pull up on the latch to lock in the high back. If that's not enough, you can adjust the heel cup forward and/or move the cables forward.
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Old 02-14-2011, 08:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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You shouldn't be experiencing foot pain, especially with Flow bindings that don't need to be as tight across the instep as most other bindings. Advice given above about going to store is good, but if you ride with them again, I'd recommend you fit the binding as recommended by Flow and then see if you still do not have any movement. If not, you may be OK; if you do, you might want to look into either adjusting or another size.

For what its worth, I have high arches and always had foot pain because I liked my bindings tight, feeling more responsive. I recently got Flow NXT-FSEs and while i had to force myself not to over-tighten, it took no time at all to get used to them. They will perform optimally without being cranked down on your foot. If they are tight, you restrict the quick rear entry capability because your boot won't come out freely.
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Old 02-22-2011, 01:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for the replies.

I went back out for the first time since posting and made sure i didn't over tighten. I felt far less pain and had no movement in the binding so I guess I have nothing to worry about
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