10/11 Burton Missions? - Snowboarding Forum

ts2mars · 02-11-2011, 10:11 PM

hey i was wondering if anyone can tell me anything about this season's Burton Mission. I want to get these at the end of the season but I've heard mix things about them. Apparently most people on this board hate the Mission, but I hear they are better quality now? Anyone ride this seasons and share your thoughts?

i pretty much just ride groomers...like going fast sometimes with the Timeless and occasionally hit the parks. Was also thinking of the Cartels, but I dunno if i'll be able to handle the high backs.

thanks!

PanHandler · 02-11-2011, 10:18 PM

theyre almost the same exact binding this season. The cartel has a bit more EVA and gel padding, and it has the Get-A-Grip cap strap, but it honestly sounds like hype. Ive never had issues with the Primo cap strap.

That is pretty much the only difference between the 2 bindings this season. If you arent gonna be doing jumps, then the extra padding isnt worth the extra price and i would go with the mission.

Im not sure what you mean by you cant handle the highbacks. Theyre the same highback, save for the cartels have more material cut out of them, making them lighter and probably more responsive.

Rufus · 02-11-2011, 10:18 PM

I demoed them last weekend and really liked them, they are very similar to Cartels from a couple of seasons ago and much improved from previous Misions. I rode them on a Custom Flying V and a Hero with a good mix of park and all mountain.

ts2mars · 02-11-2011, 10:54 PM

sweet thanks for the replies. oh i guess i was reading that the cartel's highbacks were a lot higher than the mission, but i guess that was a few years ago. what about the flex between the two bindings? heard the cartels were a lot stiffer and the mission were kind of soft.

I don't really have anything to compare to besides a pair of Ride Exs from 03/04. They aren't bad...I'm just concerned the Mission will have too much flex compared to the Ex. If its comparable or even stiffer, than I think I'm pretty set on getting them. The green ones are sick looking this year too!

Btw, what's the difference between the two toe straps?

PanHandler · 02-11-2011, 11:17 PM

i havnt ridden them so i cant comment on softness, but im sure theyre probably softer than cartels. They are an all mountain binding with a little lean towards park, but i think youll like them for the kind of riding youll be doing.

The Get-a-grip cap strap has these rubber pieces that fill the curve of the strap and theyre supposed to grip your boot better

The primo cap strap only has the rubber inside the to cap to grip the boot, but honestly ive never had a problem with the primo strap and i havnt heard anyone that has. The get-a-grip strap is honestly going overboard with the technology in order to have something new for the marketing team to work with.

Primo cap strap:

Get-A-Grip cap strap:

ts2mars · 02-11-2011, 11:22 PM

got it thanks!

george_4116 · 02-11-2011, 11:45 PM

I have tried both (Cartels and Missions), and I would describe the Missions as a hybrid between Customs and Cartels, soft like the customs, but lighter. The Cartels are deffinitely the more responsive of the three.

I ride in a similar way as you described (mostly groomers, fast sometimes, and a little park), and for me the Cartels improved my board control because they are more responsive than the Missions. I am also a bigger guy so the stiffer Cartels feel perfect.

ts2mars · 02-11-2011, 11:51 PM

hmmm....damn this is tough haha. maybe i should shell out the extra 30 for the cartels....

TreyDay · 02-12-2011, 02:02 AM

my brother just picked up a set of the missions ( he rides both park and groomers ) and he seemed to like them a lot... sorry not much more i can tell you...

eastCOASTkills · 02-18-2011, 09:12 PM

i'm in the same boat as you and i do a lot of park here on the east then when i go outwest i ride all steeps and pow, but i enjoy a softer binding so i'm probably going with the missions. I really like my cartels from 08/09 season and the 10/11 missions seem like the exact same binding.

02-11-2011, 10:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
ts2mars Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 11	10/11 Burton Missions? hey i was wondering if anyone can tell me anything about this season's Burton Mission. I want to get these at the end of the season but I've heard mix things about them. Apparently most people on this board hate the Mission, but I hear they are better quality now? Anyone ride this seasons and share your thoughts? i pretty much just ride groomers...like going fast sometimes with the Timeless and occasionally hit the parks. Was also thinking of the Cartels, but I dunno if i'll be able to handle the high backs. thanks!

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02-11-2011, 10:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
PanHandler Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 587	theyre almost the same exact binding this season. The cartel has a bit more EVA and gel padding, and it has the Get-A-Grip cap strap, but it honestly sounds like hype. Ive never had issues with the Primo cap strap. That is pretty much the only difference between the 2 bindings this season. If you arent gonna be doing jumps, then the extra padding isnt worth the extra price and i would go with the mission. Im not sure what you mean by you cant handle the highbacks. Theyre the same highback, save for the cartels have more material cut out of them, making them lighter and probably more responsive.

02-11-2011, 10:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Rufus Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Posts: 418	I demoed them last weekend and really liked them, they are very similar to Cartels from a couple of seasons ago and much improved from previous Misions. I rode them on a Custom Flying V and a Hero with a good mix of park and all mountain.

02-11-2011, 10:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
ts2mars Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 11	sweet thanks for the replies. oh i guess i was reading that the cartel's highbacks were a lot higher than the mission, but i guess that was a few years ago. what about the flex between the two bindings? heard the cartels were a lot stiffer and the mission were kind of soft. I don't really have anything to compare to besides a pair of Ride Exs from 03/04. They aren't bad...I'm just concerned the Mission will have too much flex compared to the Ex. If its comparable or even stiffer, than I think I'm pretty set on getting them. The green ones are sick looking this year too! Btw, what's the difference between the two toe straps?

02-11-2011, 11:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
PanHandler Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Rathdrum, ID Posts: 587	i havnt ridden them so i cant comment on softness, but im sure theyre probably softer than cartels. They are an all mountain binding with a little lean towards park, but i think youll like them for the kind of riding youll be doing. The Get-a-grip cap strap has these rubber pieces that fill the curve of the strap and theyre supposed to grip your boot better The primo cap strap only has the rubber inside the to cap to grip the boot, but honestly ive never had a problem with the primo strap and i havnt heard anyone that has. The get-a-grip strap is honestly going overboard with the technology in order to have something new for the marketing team to work with. Primo cap strap: Get-A-Grip cap strap:

02-11-2011, 11:22 PM	#6 (permalink)
ts2mars Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 11	got it thanks!

02-11-2011, 11:45 PM	#7 (permalink)
george_4116 Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 49	I have tried both (Cartels and Missions), and I would describe the Missions as a hybrid between Customs and Cartels, soft like the customs, but lighter. The Cartels are deffinitely the more responsive of the three. I ride in a similar way as you described (mostly groomers, fast sometimes, and a little park), and for me the Cartels improved my board control because they are more responsive than the Missions. I am also a bigger guy so the stiffer Cartels feel perfect.

02-11-2011, 11:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
ts2mars Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 11	hmmm....damn this is tough haha. maybe i should shell out the extra 30 for the cartels....

02-12-2011, 02:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
TreyDay Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28	my brother just picked up a set of the missions ( he rides both park and groomers ) and he seemed to like them a lot... sorry not much more i can tell you...

02-18-2011, 09:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
eastCOASTkills Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: PA Posts: 393	i'm in the same boat as you and i do a lot of park here on the east then when i go outwest i ride all steeps and pow, but i enjoy a softer binding so i'm probably going with the missions. I really like my cartels from 08/09 season and the 10/11 missions seem like the exact same binding.