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Old 02-14-2011, 09:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So this past weekend i went to mont. tremblant with my first board setup ( K2 Darkstar with rome 390 bosses) (tremblants fucking awesome)

On like the 5th run my entire front binding completely fell off it was fucking terrible

THe problem was that the screws werent long enough to hold the binding in tightly because the washers were in the way.

I was just wondering if it is a bad idea to take out the washers? Are they needed? and if so does anyone have any advice on what i should do?

thank you
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:02 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Why not just buy longer screws? ... :P
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think ride's advice was to ride the board a little bit and then tighten the screws. The bottom cushioning will pack down as you ride on it and allow you to thread the screws in further.

I ripped my binding out too when i tried to ollie off a roller. I had a huge problem tryin to get my bindings and board to work well together but now that it's dialed in i love it.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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whenever I frist started using my bosses, I tighten down 2 screws without washers in each base plate. Then I put in 2 screws with washers and tightened them up a little. then i removed the washerless screw and put washers on them and tighten all the screws down as much as possible.

Now, I can screw teh bindings down like normal, using washers from the beginning.
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No matter what bindings you use, you should always strap in after mounting them on your board for the first time. Do some carpet sessions or backyard if you don't have carpet. This will start to compress the dampening foam under the bindings. Get your tool and re-tighten your bindings. Make sure you take it to the hill as well and check them after the first few runs.

This is also the reason why I never go full blast on a brand new setup. I always do mellow runs, bunny hill even to make sure things are in order. You can also ollie/nollie while stationary to make sure nothing pops off.

I know this sounds like an annoyance, but it really doesn't take that much time out of your day. It's also worth it seeing the possible consequences.

By the way, I have been seeing more manufacturer's moving towards shorter screws. I was looking at some of my older bindings and the screws were significantly longer.
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Old 02-15-2011, 08:16 AM   #6 (permalink)
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tighten down 2 screws without washers in each base plate. Then put in 2 screws with washers and tighten them up a little. then remove the washerless screws and put washers on them and tighten all the screws down as much as possible.
I just picked up a new pair of Bosses and this is exactly what the shop owner told me. He said that almost half the people who buy Rome call back and complain about this. Simply following this when putting together your setup will make sure your binding stays put.
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My boss' are mounted on a Capita Sierrascope and when I first mounted the bindings, I also thought the screws were pretty short. I was able to get a couple of screws started and I tightened down the bindings. As Leo said, I strapped on the bindings and jumped around and what not, then I tightened again. I also don't trust simply tightening at room temp, I always check back at the mountain since metal contracts with cold. I never had to remove washers, but it sounds like a good idea if you can get the screws to tighten at all. Good luck!

BTW, losing a whole binding sounds pretty crazy!
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I just picked up a new pair of Bosses and this is exactly what the shop owner told me. He said that almost half the people who buy Rome call back and complain about this. Simply following this when putting together your setup will make sure your binding stays put.
Just to reiterate - same thing with me. Did this, works fine.
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:53 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Default Solution For "short" Rome Binding Screws

ROME actually posted a solution to the "short" screw problem...somewhere on this forum.

SOLUTION:
When you mount your Rome binding to your board, screw in the first screw WITHOUT a washer. That will pin the binding down and compress the shock pad. This will allow you to then screw in the next 3 screws WITH washers. Finally, remove the 1st screw, and screw it back in WITH a washer.

This trick worked for me. The problem isn't that the screws are too short. The problem is that Rome doesn't put this in their in-box instructions.




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So this past weekend i went to mont. tremblant with my first board
setup ( K2 Darkstar with rome 390 bosses) (tremblants fucking awesome)

On like the 5th run my entire front binding completely fell off it was fucking terrible

THe problem was that the screws werent long enough to hold the binding in tightly because the washers were in the way.

I was just wondering if it is a bad idea to take out the washers? Are they needed? and if so does anyone have any advice on what i should do?

thank you
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Old 02-16-2011, 03:01 PM   #10 (permalink)
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common problem with romes. I just went to hardware and bought the same screw just a couple threads longer. I know you can do one screw then run it back but i didnt have a good piece of mind riiding and thinking the bindings might fall off.
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