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Old 02-24-2011, 10:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry K2 Cinch's - Not recommended

I bought the K2 Cinch's in the 08-09 season. They've been to the US (Tahoe), New Zealand and Japan and I've always loved the quick get-in-get-out mechanism. Now I'm back in Tahoe and spent about 15 days on the mountain the past month and they have come undone whilst mid-run about 5 times!

Now don't get me wrong. I used to love them as I was halfway down the mountain as my mates sat down and screwed with their bindings but with about 50 days on the slopes they are starting to fail. There's nothng like hitting a black tree run when your back foot just comes free of the binding - causing a lucky fall and much swearing. If it happened once I could live with it but it's starting to happen pretty randomly and often now. They'll lock as always when I initially bind up and for no reason just come loose! It's always my back foot ankle strap that comes loose, anyone else have this problem?

Anyway screw these bindings I want to live - I'm going back to regular bindings as you can't bomb a run if you're in constant fear of being flung from your board. Buyer beware...

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Old 02-24-2011, 11:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sounds pretty sketchy. Seems like you got a pretty good run out of them though.
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Old 02-24-2011, 11:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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yeah I guess they've had their time - good while they lasted but if you can't trust them you can't ride them
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Old 02-25-2011, 12:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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yeah i wouldn't ride em after that starts happening but 50 days of riding seem kinda like a lot.
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Old 02-25-2011, 01:42 AM   #5 (permalink)
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yeah i wouldn't ride em after that starts happening but 50 days of riding seem kinda like a lot.
Thats less than a season and a half for me...

Binding should last me over 120 days... or else...
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Old 02-25-2011, 07:57 AM   #6 (permalink)
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50 days is actually reasonable considering you flew them everywhere and hit things like black tree runs. Also, they are a 2009 model. Believe it or not, but binding and snowboard technology have come a very long way in the past two years. Even compare the 2010 K2 Autos to the 2011 version. Much improved toe strap system.

You were able to trust them for your type of riding for 50 days maybe more or less on big mountains. It's just time to buy a new pair buddy.

Also, I know they are out of warranty, but have you at least tried to contact K2? They might help you out.

I'm sorry, I just dislike threads like these that bash a particular gear without much warrant. You make it sound like nobody should buy them, but you yourself enjoyed the heck out of them for 50 days of big boy mountain riding through black tree runs. I understand a post like this if the bindings broke from 50 days of mellow riding. Yours could also be a fluke. Your loss though. You are going to miss out on some awesome K2 bindings because you had an incident with your hard ridden pair of 2009 bindings.

By the way, you'll be surprised to find that traditional strap bindings have just as many problems as quick entry bindings. In fact, I've run into way more problems with my 2011 390 Boss than I did with my 2006 Flow Flite 3 bindings. I don't hate Rome though because I at least contacted them before going on a "Avoid 390 Boss" rant and they were able to resolve my issue very promptly.

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50 days sounds a little short lifespan to me. I expect at least two seasons (~120 days) out of my bindings before they malfunction. Wear and tear after 50 days I expect, but not malfunction.
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Old 02-25-2011, 08:35 AM   #8 (permalink)
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50 days sounds a little short lifespan to me. I expect at least two seasons (~120 days) out of my bindings before they malfunction. Wear and tear after 50 days I expect, but not malfunction.
You can't just count the days. It's the type of riding. The places he mentioned have big mountains. He was also talking about aggressive tree runs.

All of them being trips, I'm sure he took full advantage of the mountains he was visiting meaning little to no cruising.

All my assumption from what I've read of course.

As for the malfunction, it sounds like wear-and-tear actually. Ratchets and straps wear out fairly quickly compared to the rest of the bindings. This is because we are constantly cranking/unstrapping them. So it's expected to wear faster. This is the very reason why I always tell people to ask for spare parts when they get bindings.

If his chasis, highback, or even mounting plate blew out, then I would call it malfunction. All signs point to wear-and-tear to me.

BTW: I'm sure KillClimbz can do to his entire equipment in one day what we can do in multiple days. So the lifespan for his gear is probably much shorter than ours when you count just the days.
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Have you pulled them apart or visually inspected them for any missing or failing components?? Could be something is broken or cracked and this is the reason they are failing. Lots of moving parts in those, I would inspect them closely. Could be as simple as a $5 part....
I'm sure you did as you are a an expert rider, still a suggestion if you didn't....
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You can't just count the days. It's the type of riding. The places he mentioned have big mountains. He was also talking about aggressive tree runs.

All of them being trips, I'm sure he took full advantage of the mountains he was visiting meaning little to no cruising.

All my assumption from what I've read of course.

As for the malfunction, it sounds like wear-and-tear actually. Ratchets and straps wear out fairly quickly compared to the rest of the bindings. This is because we are constantly cranking/unstrapping them. So it's expected to wear faster. This is the very reason why I always tell people to ask for spare parts when they get bindings.

If his chasis, highback, or even mounting plate blew out, then I would call it malfunction. All signs point to wear-and-tear to me.

BTW: I'm sure KillClimbz can do to his entire equipment in one day what we can do in multiple days. So the lifespan for his gear is probably much shorter than ours when you count just the days.
Leo, I put in over 60 days per year at a western resort, with bowls, trees, bumps, rocks, and elevation, and my bindings function at least two seasons. Bachelor is no midwestern "hill." I usually replace them out of wanting something new rather than from them being broken. I'm up to 50 days already this year having started on Thanksgiving. That's only 12 weeks ago. I'd be bummed if my binding only lasted 12 weeks.

Edit: I pulled up my stats for this season on the mountain website just for kicks.
482,869 vertical feet total
10,974 vertical feet average per day
23,150 most vertical feet in a day
366 total turns

With the season running through May I might be able to hit 1 million vertical feet this year.

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