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Old 03-08-2011, 11:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey!
I'm a female intermediate/advanced all mountain freestyle boarder....and there's something i'd really like to know...
what makes great bindings great?
apart from durability, i don't understand why some bindings are better than others. i've only tried rentals when i first started, and have only been using my own forum bindings for the past 2 years, so i was wondering if someone could explain to me how to distinguish between good and not so good bindings. this may be a newbie question to some, but i'd really like to know. thanks!
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:01 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1. Durability.
2. Durability.
3. Hardware used. Ratchets, materials and all the stuff.
4. Tech (foot bed canting, some strap tech, etc.)
5. Warranity and companies.

Usually advanced and top level freeride bindings cost more then top lever freestyle bindings.

As i were told here, i can partly confirm it, that there's just a little companies who produce Really Good Bindings:
Rome
Flux
Union
Some Rides.

I'v ridden Flux and they're supercomfy, really, i like all about them, but it was a freestyle model, it wasn't as stiff as i want it to be.
Now i'm with Ride and i wont ever change it for a freeride board.
My next bindings(once it will happen) would be either Rome Targa or Flow NXT-FR(if they made footbed cant)
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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1. Durability.


I'v ridden Flux and they're supercomfy, really, i like all about them, but it was a freestyle model, it wasn't as stiff as i want it to be.
now u said the bindings were super comfy...what makes them comfy? i understand how a boot can be comfy...but i really dun understand how a binding could be comfy.... maybe i just need to try really crappy bindings to see what the difference is.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I dont know alot since im pretty new but i know the forums i have are super comfy. What makes them comfy to me is the footbed is pretty cushy and so is the highbacks, also both the straps feel really good on both parts of my foot ankle and toe cap. Almost to the point where im strapped in tight but almost dont feel like there is a binding on my foot. Thats at least what comfy is to me. Crappy bindings have crappy straps hard to tighten hard to loosen slip off while riding. Junk materials in both the pads on the straps and footbed and highbacks. Ive had some crap bindings before renting stuff. They just frustrate the hell out of you.
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but doesn't a good comfy boot eliminate the discomfort of any poorly constructed binding?
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not necessarily...i like to think my boots are pretty comfy...but unfortuantely there is not enough padding on my straps and my ratchet digs in a little bit to my boot and i can feel it..no matter how i adjust the straps....i fixed it with a little foam but non the less...i didnt exactly get awesome bindings though
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I think the key to a comfortable binding is good fit (which really is on the purchaser to buy the right size and make sure the boot is a good match) but more importantly the strap/ratchet quality. A really good toe strap can be worn over the top of the toe or over the cap, and a really good ankle strap locks you in tight while evenly distributing that pressure across the entire surface of the strap, eliminating pressure points. Good ratchets lock and hold tight without slipping. Stiff boots can help hide some binding issues but a great binding will feel great even in really soft boots. I think Rome's ankle straps are amazing. Just my two cents.
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Old 03-09-2011, 09:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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theres lots of things that come with a better binding for what you do.

bindings can be made to be super hard all the way to super soft, giving you either more natural board flex and feel(soft) or giving you a more rigid surface to plant your feet in.

they also have a range of wieghts, light weight bindings are well just really light makeing your whole setup that much lighter to be taking off jumps, or carrying around the mtn.


theres also adjustability, some bindings just have a comon toe strap adjustment, were the better bindings have full adjustment of things like the heel cup and footbed.


then you get into all the tech stuff like canting. i dont know anything about the binding tech so ill leave that to someone more knowledgeable.

*note some of these statements may be incorrect as im still learning all the ins and outs of snowboarding but from my best knowledge this is what i have to offer.

try just searching around the binding section of this forum and youll find lots of helpfull things to teach you about bindings.
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Old 03-09-2011, 10:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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thanks guys! i think i'm getting a better understanding now.
i just always thought to myself, "why are some bindings crazy expensive...they're just plastic right?!?!"

so here's another question for you....i'm goofy, and when my stance is slightly off, i find my outer left ankle gets really really tired/strained (even more so when i'm practicing presses and ollies).... is this because of my bindings? how do i fix this problem? i don't think it's because of my boots because i tie it pretty tight...and when set up right, the problem isn't as bad.
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One thing that hasn't really been mentioned yet is responsiveness. It's hard to describe until you've experienced the difference, but a cheap binding made of cheap materials will flex and make your ride feel "mushy". Kind of like driving a car where there's a lot of play in the steering wheel. Cheap bindings will also almost always have little or no padding on the highback and base. I know it seems silly to worry about 1/4" of padding when you've got boots on, but it makes a difference. Then there's construction quality issues that affect things like breakage, how well the rachets work, how well they hold, etc. And features. Like my NXT-ATs have a removable plate under the foot that covers the base plate bolts. Or the mechanism for altering highback lean. The mechanism on the Flow Fives sucks, but the one on the NXTs is great.

Anyway, generally it's not one thing you can point at; it's a whole bunch of little things that add up to a binding that you just like better.
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