Too much heel overhang on Flow NXT - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

**Donutz** · 03-22-2011, 11:52 AM

Thing is, I have the NXT-ATs, large size, and I'm a 10.5 boot (Ride Jackson Boa). The setup is fine for me. I'll try to take some pix tonight and post them so you can compare. Hate to harp, but I think it's a binding plate issue.

AcroPhile · 03-22-2011, 12:09 PM

If you moved the whole highback forward on the binding then this is where your strap problems are coming from. Your boot is definitely towards the bigger range of the spectrum of boots that will fit in a a large size Flow so there is absolutely no reason you should have moved that thing forward. They come brand new out of the box with them set all the way back. Leave them that way. Your overhang problem is caused solely by the way you have your discs oriented on the board. Don't screw with other adjustments in an attempt to fix this! That would be like noticing that your car pulls to the left and then deflating your right tire to compensate instead of fixing the alignment. Put all the adjustments back to the way they were when you just pulled them out of the box and experiment with the way you mount the disks. This WILL fix the problem. After you have them mounted evenly on the board then you can pull out the toe and heel ramps a bit so they sit under the contact points of your boot.

WorstPlayer · 03-22-2011, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AcroPhile

If you moved the whole highback forward on the binding then this is where your strap problems are coming from. Your boot is definitely towards the bigger range of the spectrum of boots that will fit in a a large size Flow so there is absolutely no reason you should have moved that thing forward. They come brand new out of the box with them set all the way back. Leave them that way. Your overhang problem is caused solely by the way you have your discs oriented on the board. Don't screw with other adjustments in an attempt to fix this! That would be like noticing that your car pulls to the left and then deflating your right tire to compensate instead of fixing the alignment. Put all the adjustments back to the way they were when you just pulled them out of the box and experiment with the way you mount the disks. This WILL fix the problem. After you have them mounted evenly on the board then you can pull out the toe and heel ramps a bit so they sit under the contact points of your boot.

I haven't moved anything. The highback and the baseplate are the default locations how they came out of the box.

I just assumed the highback was pushed all the way to the front right out of the box. Looking at the notch, it just looked like it was all the way to the front. (Are you able to tell from the picture I posted in the original post? I'm a beginner to all of this so I probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

)

Like you mentioned, in an attempt to fix this I unscrewed the top rear strap and highback. But once I unscrewed it and realized how complicated it all looked, I quickly set it and screwed it back in

I have the plate set in as:

ooo ooo
ooo ooo
ooo ooo
ooo

Jeez, this is pretty difficult. Or I'm just really dumb and should stay away from snowboarding.

jdang307 · 03-22-2011, 01:49 PM

Rotate the disks if you haven't already. Ignore centering the binding. Center the boot.

HuskyFlip · 03-23-2011, 01:21 PM

Okay, I still we can get you there. When I asked if the heel pad was as far back as it would go, I was referring to the adjustable (or so I saw in the Flow vid) heel "ramp" on the base plate, not the high back. The vid showed a screw that you loosen and the heel section of the base plate should slide back and give your boot sole something to stand on. VID link See around 01:30. This should eliminate most of the boot 'overhanging' the binding's baseplate, which is one of the two ways we're talking 'overhang'. My boots only stick out past the baseplate by about a half inch in the front and in the back, and I don't think I even have adjustable ramps.

The other 'overhang' is your boot in relation to the board. As someone said, don't worry about centering the mounting disk or the whole binding on your board. It's your boot that has to be centered to eliminate toe and heel drag. Looking at the mounting disk, there's a good 1.75 - 2 inches of range you should have to work with, in that you can go about an inch toward the toe edge or an inch toward the heel edge of the board.

Again, work on setting up the boot so it fits correctly in the binding first. Let us know how you make out adjusting the foot ramps, especially the heel ramp and post a pic if possible.

WorstPlayer · 03-23-2011, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HuskyFlip

Okay, I still we can get you there. When I asked if the heel pad was as far back as it would go, I was referring to the adjustable (or so I saw in the Flow vid) heel "ramp" on the base plate, not the high back. The vid showed a screw that you loosen and the heel section of the base plate should slide back and give your boot sole something to stand on. VID link See around 01:30. This should eliminate most of the boot 'overhanging' the binding's baseplate, which is one of the two ways we're talking 'overhang'. My boots only stick out past the baseplate by about a half inch in the front and in the back, and I don't think I even have adjustable ramps.

The other 'overhang' is your boot in relation to the board. As someone said, don't worry about centering the mounting disk or the whole binding on your board. It's your boot that has to be centered to eliminate toe and heel drag. Looking at the mounting disk, there's a good 1.75 - 2 inches of range you should have to work with, in that you can go about an inch toward the toe edge or an inch toward the heel edge of the board.

Again, work on setting up the boot so it fits correctly in the binding first. Let us know how you make out adjusting the foot ramps, especially the heel ramp and post a pic if possible.

Thx for the inputs. I was looking at that video at the 1:30 mark.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, that just seems to move the highback front or back only right? The heel ramp I've adjusted accordingly.

Right now, I've rotated the binding disc and have been able to move the bindings up a bit. Hopefully this means the heel overhang is reduced.

Will try to post some pics up later tonight. Thx for all the help so far.

WorstPlayer · 03-24-2011, 08:22 AM

Thx for everyone's help.

I think I've got the heel overhang reduced to an acceptible level now.

As people suggested, I moved the binding disc to a position of:

o o o
o o o
o o o o

o o o o
o o o
o o o

The heel overhang is slightly less than 1/4 of an inch now. Definitely better than what it was before.

HuskyFlip · 03-24-2011, 09:39 AM

Nice. 1/4" shouldn't present any significant riding issues. To get rid of that, you'd probably have to go to a wide board.

WorstPlayer · 03-24-2011, 10:13 AM

Actually, I worded it wrong.

What I meant to say was that compared to the toes, the heel comes out in the back a little less than 1/4 inch. So roughly a 1/4 inch difference between the heel and toe.

But my toes and heels still evenly (almost) hang over the boards edge about an inch, give or take.

Nefarious · 03-24-2011, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WorstPlayer

Actually, I worded it wrong.

What I meant to say was that compared to the toes, the heel comes out in the back a little less than 1/4 inch. So roughly a 1/4 inch difference between the heel and toe.

But my toes and heels still evenly (almost) hang over the boards edge about an inch, give or take.

What angles are your bindings at right now? You could always attempt to alter your stance to help reduce overhang. It's great if you're already at an acceptable level, but if not; Altering your angles to 15/-15 might help.

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03-22-2011, 12:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
AcroPhile Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Denver Posts: 643	If you moved the whole highback forward on the binding then this is where your strap problems are coming from. Your boot is definitely towards the bigger range of the spectrum of boots that will fit in a a large size Flow so there is absolutely no reason you should have moved that thing forward. They come brand new out of the box with them set all the way back. Leave them that way. Your overhang problem is caused solely by the way you have your discs oriented on the board. Don't screw with other adjustments in an attempt to fix this! That would be like noticing that your car pulls to the left and then deflating your right tire to compensate instead of fixing the alignment. Put all the adjustments back to the way they were when you just pulled them out of the box and experiment with the way you mount the disks. This WILL fix the problem. After you have them mounted evenly on the board then you can pull out the toe and heel ramps a bit so they sit under the contact points of your boot.

03-22-2011, 01:49 PM	#14 (permalink)
jdang307 Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 2,075	Rotate the disks if you haven't already. Ignore centering the binding. Center the boot.

03-23-2011, 01:21 PM	#15 (permalink)
HuskyFlip Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 36	Okay, I still we can get you there. When I asked if the heel pad was as far back as it would go, I was referring to the adjustable (or so I saw in the Flow vid) heel "ramp" on the base plate, not the high back. The vid showed a screw that you loosen and the heel section of the base plate should slide back and give your boot sole something to stand on. VID link See around 01:30. This should eliminate most of the boot 'overhanging' the binding's baseplate, which is one of the two ways we're talking 'overhang'. My boots only stick out past the baseplate by about a half inch in the front and in the back, and I don't think I even have adjustable ramps. The other 'overhang' is your boot in relation to the board. As someone said, don't worry about centering the mounting disk or the whole binding on your board. It's your boot that has to be centered to eliminate toe and heel drag. Looking at the mounting disk, there's a good 1.75 - 2 inches of range you should have to work with, in that you can go about an inch toward the toe edge or an inch toward the heel edge of the board. Again, work on setting up the boot so it fits correctly in the binding first. Let us know how you make out adjusting the foot ramps, especially the heel ramp and post a pic if possible.

03-24-2011, 08:22 AM	#17 (permalink)
WorstPlayer Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 55	Thx for everyone's help. I think I've got the heel overhang reduced to an acceptible level now. As people suggested, I moved the binding disc to a position of: o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o The heel overhang is slightly less than 1/4 of an inch now. Definitely better than what it was before.

03-24-2011, 09:39 AM	#18 (permalink)
HuskyFlip Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: West Chester, PA Posts: 36	Nice. 1/4" shouldn't present any significant riding issues. To get rid of that, you'd probably have to go to a wide board.

03-24-2011, 10:13 AM	#19 (permalink)
WorstPlayer Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 55	Actually, I worded it wrong. What I meant to say was that compared to the toes, the heel comes out in the back a little less than 1/4 inch. So roughly a 1/4 inch difference between the heel and toe. But my toes and heels still evenly (almost) hang over the boards edge about an inch, give or take.