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Old 04-14-2011, 08:27 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was thinking about getting myself some easy access bindings. People may say you don't save that much time. For me it's not the ratchet that takes the time it's the bloody stepping on the ladders trying to pull them out from under your foot then realising your going to have to sit down to strap in. Plus the fact skiiers are impatient nobs... Also being in the UK I ride indoor slopes a lot so having one less ratchet will save a lot of time.

Whats the general consensus on contrabands?

Not digging flows as they look like you'd have to kick your foot in a bit. Cinches look like tanks and Autos don't really do it for me.
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Flows. ever actually tried them? Let go of your pre-judgment that "they look like you'd have to kick your foot in a bit." That is simply not the case, you place your foot in above the bed but below the strap little wiggle and pull the highback up - GOLDEN. Even in deep heavy powder it's really not a problem, and is a great rear entry system. I rode various Burton and other strapies for 10+ years so yeah... I'm a convert. Don't question my bias.
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:47 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Can't say I have. I like to crank down on my bindings I don't see how I'm going to get a good fit without kicking my foot in there. I assume when you put the high back up again it doesn't tighten the strap at all? The strap just stays the same?
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Once you get Flows set to where you want them, you don't have to adjust the strap at all. It's a pretty damn simple system, though getting the strap dialed where you want it can take a few runs. One key thing is that you don't need the strap quite as tight as you would with a regular setup. The large strap spread pressure all over the foot so you can get the same response without cranking it as tight. If that makes sense. Entry and exit is pretty easy.

Anyway, the Contraband is a solid design too. Though I did find myself stepping on it much like you describe for straps. Once set properly they hold your foot in the bed nice and snug. I wouldn't get first generation Contrabands is about the only advice I have. This season's were much improved over the years previous.
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I've got some 2010 contrabands and are pretty happy with em. Fairly quick to strap in and no pressure points.
Take your boots into the shop and check that they fit the binding, my boots are Vans BFB's from a couple years back and are kinda fat but they still fit well. Takes about 30min to setup contrabands with help of the video on the ride site.
I've heard the model with the spider webbing can be a problem, i.e the webbing can split. I don't see why you'd need it anyway. The toe strap does its job nicely without it.
A couple of thoughts i've had:
-Resale, someone may be put off buying a used board without 'normal' binders perhaps. Or their boots dont fit without having to unmount and adjust them, just to see if they work. If you don't change setups often, who cares right?
-'Normal' binders having a toecap actually sorta protects your toes to a point. I've slammed on hard pack on my toes a couple times and it hurts, i dont even know how i did this, maybe i'm an anomaly... or just stupid.
-Contrabands are only a tiny bit quicker than most two strap bindings IMO. They pay off by being pretty damn comfortable and solid feeling when you've got em dialed.
Hope that helps!
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Anyway, the Contraband is a solid design too. Though I did find myself stepping on it much like you describe for straps.


Yup, it doesn't get around the fact that you'll still step on the strap occasionally.

Hard boots and alpine bindings?
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Thanks for the info guys. Seems like I wrote flow off too quick. Definitely like to try some of those out if possible. If I were to get contrabands it would definitely be next seasons ones.
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Thanks for the info guys. Seems like I wrote flow off too quick. Definitely like to try some of those out if possible. If I were to get contrabands it would definitely be next seasons ones.
That'll be hard as they aren't making them for 2012. Still making nitranes, But they get a stupid highback next year.

You'd be better off getting Contrabands or Nitranes from this year.
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Whats the difference between contrabands and nitranes? Having looked at their 2012 catalogue they're doing optimo contrabands and ill eagle contrabands. Doesn't mean too much to me tbh...
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Optimos are their super high end thong bindings. The Ill Eagles are the Nitrane Replacements. Basically the same but they get this years Revolt highback.

The Nitranes are just a little more responsive and have a much better highback in my opinion.
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