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Old 05-02-2011, 08:57 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So I might buy some new bindings over the summer for next season. I ride a DC PBJ and I have Burton Mission bindings right now. I think I am ready for some new bindings and was looking at Union Forces as my top choice. Any reviews/thoughts on these bindings? Just wanted to get some info on these before I spend $200 on them. Thanks
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Old 05-02-2011, 10:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I used to ride Mission and now I swear by my Forces. I love them.
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Old 05-02-2011, 12:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well I'm guessing by saying $200 you waiting for 2012? In that case I found Raiden Zero's lighter, similar flex but with much better heel dampening. Comfier for me and the toestrap is much better. Mini disc tech too so they give better board flex.

If not those I would pick TT30's, DS30's, M9's, and 390's before Forces any day.
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I have the forces on my jib deck and they are pretty sweet. I wasn't a fan of the toe strap from my year. It worked fine most of the time but the ratchet wasn't the best and I couldn't wear the strap any way other than across the top of my foot without it slipping. Following a post on this forum, I modded the ride 3D toe straps to fit the forces and now they went from a great binding to perfect. Great flex vs. responsiveness, weight, heelstrap ect...
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Union Forces are awesome. Why?

1. Lightweight
2. Perfect stiffness for all-mountain riding
3. Longevity
4. Aesthetics
5. Great customer service you get from Union

There is a pair of Union Force Teams on ebay right now. Pretty rare. Great price. Swooop!
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Old 05-04-2011, 03:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Union Forces are a love/hate binding as you have probably figured out by now. Some say its not worth the money, some say its their "go to" binding. Another difficulty is that this Forum has "mood swings" depending on what appears to be the "in" product. There are also people who are more vocal on this forum pushing their thoughts on their personal likes and dislikes and whether or not they receive gear or work in some capacity that may/may not make them partial to a certain company etc...

Heres my 0.5 cents:

a) Union Toe Strap could use improvement though I dont have issues
b) Ratchets are ok despite the criticism (I find Ride and K2 ratchets to be far worse and have had failures with them and none on the Unions surprisingly)
c) Forces are light enough, not the lightest, but theres plenty heavier out there. Fluxes, being one of them. And for all that weight Fluxes have, they have rather poor dampening.
d) Union Bindings are for the most very durable(except the silly "BB Wheel" inspired Contact Pro highback where one of the skinny spokes broke on me). And the baseplate does crack despite being touted as "STRONGER". But the incidence of wear and tear is alot less than many other bindings.
e) The middle-of-the road stiffness gives you versatility
f) Dampening is pretty commendable
g) If you are a really indecisive person Forces could be a good choice

Ultimately its going to be a personal choice cos the thoughts/reviews out there are pretty split (except for the toe strap bit which no one sings praises of). But I like everything else about the Forces. And ride it most of the time.
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Old 05-04-2011, 11:52 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Union Forces are awesome. Why?

1. Lightweight
2. Perfect stiffness for all-mountain riding
3. Longevity
4. Aesthetics
5. Great customer service you get from Union

There is a pair of Union Force Teams on ebay right now. Pretty rare. Great price. Swooop!
On that last part about Ebay is there any way you could send me the link to that? I may be interested in that

and thanks for the responses! i still want to 2011's but i heard the 2012's arent very good... any info on those? should i wait for the 12's or just go ahead and buy the 11's?
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^^Spot on. However, if your baseplates crack, they are covered by a lifetime warranty, so that should not be a deciding factor (unless they are cracking all over the place).
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On that last part about Ebay is there any way you could send me the link to that? I may be interested in that

and thanks for the responses! i still want to 2011's but i heard the 2012's arent very good... any info on those? should i wait for the 12's or just go ahead and buy the 11's?
I would, but the item already sold. Union Forces go fast on ebay. Usually within 2 days. I'm sure another will pop out, just wait for it.

10-11 forces are the same specs as the 11-12s, I would go with this year because the blue and yellow colorways look better imo than next years neon and red.

zumiez.com still has them in the blue, black and white colorways if you're interested.
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Old 05-04-2011, 01:54 PM   #10 (permalink)
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i will definitely look into buying these.... should I get M/L or L/XL? i wear size 12 boots

and why are the white ones $40 cheaper than the black or the blue ones?

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