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high backs aligned w/board edge????

Hi gang,

I have seen this, and was wondering??
  • Do you need to align high backs to board edge?
  • What does this do performance wise or body mechanic wise?
  • If I'm comfortable should I mess with this?
  • Trying more park this year, again is this needed for park?

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I am sporting Flow NXT atse's if that matters on the hated banana

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As far as I understand it, the highbacks get aligned with the edge so that when you are driving into them for a heelside turn, they are evenly pressuring the effective edge. You don't have to have them this way, but in theory, it should help make your riding more controlled and your turns easier to initiate.

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It just gives you more high back to press against with your boots and in turn a little more torque on your edge.

Put it this way: when you push back on your high back to get up on heel edge, you want to be pushing back perpendicular to the edge of your board, not perpendicular to your binding. The more extreme the angle of your bindings, the less of the high back you have to push against. Obviously, if you are pushing on one side of your high backs, then you'll get more flex than if you were pushing against the entire high back. That will make them feel flexier than they really are. Which may make your ride feel sloppier/sluggish.

If you have stiff high backs and/or are riding moderate angles, you probably won't notice much difference. Personally, I thought it felt better, but there are so many other variables that I couldn't say for sure.
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I don't really know how much difference it makes in terms of better force against the heel edge, but it sure seems like it would make it easier for boning grabs/tail/nose grabs, since the binding won't be able to dig in to your leg. Maybe I'm just a little nuts though.
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As far as I understand it, the highbacks get aligned with the edge so that when you are driving into them for a heelside turn, they are evenly pressuring the effective edge. You don't have to have them this way, but in theory, it should help make your riding more controlled and your turns easier to initiate.
Shouldn't centering the boot over the width of the board be the key consideration? If so, then the ideal condition would be to have equal amounts of toe and heel overhang, in which case the high back will be a little outside of the edge. When I mount my Flow T5s using the center holes in the baseplates, my highbacks hang just a tad outside the edge of the board.

It seems to me that if the highback is aligned with the edge then there will be little to no heel overhang, only toe overhang. How would this affect one's riding style? Comments/thoughts?
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Shouldn't centering the boot over the width of the board be the key consideration? If so, then the ideal condition would be to have equal amounts of toe and heel overhang, in which case the high back will be a little outside of the edge. When I mount my Flow T5s using the center holes in the baseplates, my highbacks hang just a tad outside the edge of the board.

It seems to me that if the highback is aligned with the edge then there will be little to no heel overhang, only toe overhang. How would this affect one's riding style? Comments/thoughts?
I think he meant highback rotation so that they're parallel with the heelside edge. At least, that's what I responded to. Definitely center your boot.

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I've never tried messing with mine, maybe if I'm bored on a groomer day next season I'll try it out and see if it makes a difference. It's hard to tell with things that make minor differences, as sometimes the improvement can just be placebo-effect.

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I've never tried messing with mine, maybe if I'm bored on a groomer day next season I'll try it out and see if it makes a difference. It's hard to tell with things that make minor differences, as sometimes the improvement can just be placebo-effect.
I've got some skepticism about the power transfer part, but it should make flexing your body laterally along your board easier. It may be an unnoticeable difference though, depending on your highback's shape/flex. By the looks of it, it won't do any harm, so I rotated mine when the bindings came in last week.

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I think he meant highback rotation so that they're parallel with the heelside edge. At least, that's what I responded to. Definitely center your boot.
Makes sense. Thanks!
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