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Old 09-01-2011, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Any recent reviews on the new 2012 Union Force

Specifically reviews about the updated toe strap. I know there was some reviews from last winter from people who demoed them and they said that the toe strap was awful. However, ive been reading that union re desgined it a little and the final product is supposed to be better. Now I just need to find some reviews that back that up because im really interested in getting these bindings.


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Old 09-01-2011, 01:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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FWIW the toe-strap on the preproduction bindings fit my boots perfectly, as did the previous generation toe-strap. Sounds like they just fit some boots better than others. For me Union toe-straps work better than any other toe strap I've used.
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The only redesign they did was the toestrap. That's it. Other than that it is the exact same binding as 2006. Look elsewhere I say. Raiden Zeros, Flux TT30's, Flow M9's, and K2 Uprises in my opinion all ride better and are a better value than Forces.
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Wrong again jeenyus. Force ankle straps been completely reworked also. As have the ratchets. Force is kick ass, regardless of what Kevin says. With all his posts on here, I find it hard to believe he can even find the time to ride, never mind be an authority on product. Specially Union.
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Wrong again jeenyus. Force ankle straps been completely reworked also. As have the ratchets. Force is kick ass, regardless of what Kevin says. With all his posts on here, I find it hard to believe he can even find the time to ride, never mind be an authority on product. Specially Union.
So First names huh? Johan if I'm not mistaken. DOOD its summer and I'm not rich or pro, I can't shred right now... I've also said before, I spent 3 years riding Union exclusively and have ridden most of you're lineup. Have I ever owned Forces? No. The first time I speculated they hadn't changed since day 1 I gave a disclaimer asking YOU to comment otherwise. You didn't, therefore I assumed I was correct.

Apparently there has been a strap redesign and Union, after years of poor customer feedback, have finally gotten around to doing something about their dated ratchets. WOOPY. For $200 I'd still rather ride TT30's. Or Indy's. Or Zero's. Or Fives. Or Uprises. Or Arcades.
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Hmmm, never owned a pair of Forces Kevin, but feel the need to comment on them? Somethings up. You got your panties all in a bunch about Union. Whats the matter buddy? Let me help.
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Enigma, do a little research on EL for some other opinions on Union. Kev's got a hair across his ass on it, and will hate all the way to the end. Whatever...seek knowledge and you will find.
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Enigma, do a little research on EL for some other opinions on Union. Kev's got a hair across his ass on it, and will hate all the way to the end. Whatever...seek knowledge and you will find.
I tried to get in on EL. Like hard. They literally only care about Union and Burton there. It's pointless. Try to find something remotely bad about either company there. I couldn't.

The only thing I have against Union is that they don't match up for the money. There isn't anything to help me with. I rode them for a while without giving thought to try anything else. Finally started trying other bindings again and found that Unions just weren't as good. All mountain? Salomon Chiefs or K2 Companys. Park? Raiden Zeros or Flow M9's. Jib? Salomon Arcades or Flow Quattro's.

Union/CAPiTA reps were kinda pricks at SIA and decided to be the only company to care that I didn't recieve my demo badge so I didn't get the chance to try the Atlas or Flites. You still have hope to woo me. If it rides good it rides good. So far what I've ridden is mediocre. Though I have always said Union displayed good durability for me, my Contacts lasted me 3 full seasons and over 200 days.
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There it is, hidden in there. Your pride got hurt because you came to the demo and because your not a part of a shop, you got denied. See Kev, the SIA demo isn't set up for internet chat room hero's to increase their wealth of opinions to spew all over the message boards. It's for shops, to try the product that they think they will bring in the next season. Our tents only have enough product for shop dudes. Actually we dont. So bloggers, industry, magazines, review sites and people like you were turned away so that the people that were there to do their job, could. Sorry you go denied. I get denied to getting back stage at concerts all the time. But next year Kevin, come up to the tent or our booth in Denver (if you can get a badge to get in), find me - you know what I look like, I'm real transparent on here, and introduce yourself. I'll take you thru the line, go for a rip with you, and even buy you a beer. You can walk away and still hate, but at least then, the Union brands comments by you will have some substance.

Not clowning Flow, as I totally respect EVERYTHING they have accomplished and their product, but talk to ANY shop dude, at ANY shop that sells them and ask the opinion of Flow vs. Union value to dollar. Same with Nitro...I mean Raiden if you can even find a shop that sells them. Ha, dude your killing me with THAT comparission. Salomon bindings, please. They sell one binding, and it's the colorful low end that they package up to leverage their decks into stores. K2, ok you substance there, granted you've actually ridden the bindings, not read about them on the internet. Flow Quattros, shit dude even ask the Flow guys how they stack up against Union. Your a funny guy Kev. Killing me.

Anyway, serious on the binding demo offer and the beer. See you in Denver or Winter Park. Again, my name is Johan and I work for Union, CAPiTA and Coal.
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I was working for a shop at the time broseph. And as a former shop kid, I also know that most shop kids don't know their ass from their nose when it comes to a large breadth of gear. I CHOOSE to ride Flow over Union and ride Quattros. Better than my Contacts. And I ATTENDED SIA in a legitimate media capacity. Oh and now I work for a snowboard company just like you! Wowzers! You can't find Raiden cause 2011 was probably the first year the were good enough to think about them. For 2012 they're solid and have better tech in them than Union. Not to mention you are doing a great job at representing you company right now by picking on one of the few people here that doesn't like most of Unions products... Also:

2006 K2 Formula


2012 K2 Formula


2006 Burton Cartel


2012 Burton Cartel


2006 Union Force


2012 Union Force



SOOOOOOOO DIFFERENT OMG. You get why people like me feel like they haven't changed since day 1?
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