Binding Screws - Snowboarding Forum

darksidesw · 09-06-2011, 12:03 AM

Hello all! I am in need of several sets of binding screws/washers. I didn't find any that would work at the local hardware shops, but seriously, they are just screws and washers...yet the prices I see online and on ebay are crazy. Anyone know where to get cheap screw sets is? Thanks!

Deviant · 09-06-2011, 01:07 AM

What kind of bindings are they?

OzSnow · 09-06-2011, 03:26 AM

sorry for jumping in

im in the same boat hear, i got Salomon Relay bindings, and dont have the screws, is it universal?

Thanks

fattrav · 09-06-2011, 03:53 AM

Well, to put binding screws into a catergory, youre looking at "dome head Phillips counter sunk machine screws", but with a slit cut in them and a plastic/nylon locking inserted. I've looked for these in the various fixture parts books that we've got at work to no avail. You'll not find something so specialized at your local hardware store and really, you're better off to get them from your local snow shop, or online. Yes, they are pricey, but that's what you pay for something so specialized..

You could just put in normal countersunk machine screws (m6 dia x about 12mm length from memory), but the flat top screws screw slots strip easier (as there is not enough meat compare to the dome head to act against the torsional forces of the screw driver), especially if you've used a dab of loctite to lock them in. Steer clear of anything with a galvanized coating as well.

TofuSama · 09-06-2011, 09:11 AM

Binding screws are a standard M6 size/thread. Far as I know they should run around 15mm long, but It may differ based on you specific binding. You don't need the nylon locking, none of mine have ever had them, though you may want some blue loctite. Only the blue stuff though.

CheeseForSteeze · 09-06-2011, 11:41 AM

As an aside, does anyone know of any binding mounting hardware available with a Torx or spline drive? These drive heads seem preferable to Phillips since they are nearly impervious to cam-out whereas Phillips are designed to cam-out once the bolt is driven snug tight. This would be very convienent!

TofuSama · 09-06-2011, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze

As an aside, does anyone know of any binding mounting hardware available with a Torx or spline drive? These drive heads seem preferable to Phillips since they are nearly impervious to cam-out whereas Phillips are designed to cam-out once the bolt is driven snug tight. This would be very convienent!

If you search around online or at local fastener/bolt stores, It may be possible to find some torx bolts. I wouldn't bet on finding any spline ones though.

CheeseForSteeze · 09-06-2011, 12:52 PM

I don't think the hardware store is going to have M6 oval head bolts non-tapered that small.

edit: I just check a bunch of typical online suppliers including Grainger and McMaster-Carr and just about all countersunk metric machine screws (flat or oval) are Phillips drive. Too bad, it'd be really nice to have a beefier drive.

TofuSama · 09-06-2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze

I don't think the hardware store is going to have M6 oval head bolts non-tapered that small.

edit: I just check a bunch of typical online suppliers including Grainger and McMaster-Carr and just about all countersunk metric machine screws (flat or oval) are Phillips drive. Too bad, it'd be really nice to have a beefier drive.

Not so much hardware store as fastener stores. In Edmonton, where I live, there's a store called Edmonton Nut and Bolt. There are a few similar ones in the city as well.

GreatScott · 09-06-2011, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CheeseForSteeze

Too bad, it'd be really nice to have a beefier drive.

I'm confused as to why you want a beefier drive. Torque those screws too much and you'll be looking for inserts to repair your board.

And this looks like a decent price for fasteners:

http://tognar.com/binding_tools_boot...rd.html#screws

09-06-2011, 12:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
darksidesw Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 8	Binding Screws Hello all! I am in need of several sets of binding screws/washers. I didn't find any that would work at the local hardware shops, but seriously, they are just screws and washers...yet the prices I see online and on ebay are crazy. Anyone know where to get cheap screw sets is? Thanks!

09-06-2011, 03:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
fattrav Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,057	Well, to put binding screws into a catergory, youre looking at "dome head Phillips counter sunk machine screws", but with a slit cut in them and a plastic/nylon locking inserted. I've looked for these in the various fixture parts books that we've got at work to no avail. You'll not find something so specialized at your local hardware store and really, you're better off to get them from your local snow shop, or online. Yes, they are pricey, but that's what you pay for something so specialized.. You could just put in normal countersunk machine screws (m6 dia x about 12mm length from memory), but the flat top screws screw slots strip easier (as there is not enough meat compare to the dome head to act against the torsional forces of the screw driver), especially if you've used a dab of loctite to lock them in. Steer clear of anything with a galvanized coating as well. __________________ Never Summer SL153 & Atomic Hatchet 159 Burton CO2 Nitro Teams

09-06-2011, 09:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
TofuSama Senior Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 164	Binding screws are a standard M6 size/thread. Far as I know they should run around 15mm long, but It may differ based on you specific binding. You don't need the nylon locking, none of mine have ever had them, though you may want some blue loctite. Only the blue stuff though. __________________ I've made over a hundred posts? How did this happen?

09-06-2011, 12:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
CheeseForSteeze -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,722	I don't think the hardware store is going to have M6 oval head bolts non-tapered that small. edit: I just check a bunch of typical online suppliers including Grainger and McMaster-Carr and just about all countersunk metric machine screws (flat or oval) are Phillips drive. Too bad, it'd be really nice to have a beefier drive. Last edited by CheeseForSteeze; 09-06-2011 at 01:02 PM.

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09-06-2011, 01:07 AM	#2 (permalink)
Deviant Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,659	What kind of bindings are they?

09-06-2011, 03:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
OzSnow Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Aus, NSW Posts: 98	sorry for jumping in im in the same boat hear, i got Salomon Relay bindings, and dont have the screws, is it universal? Thanks

09-06-2011, 11:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
CheeseForSteeze -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,722	As an aside, does anyone know of any binding mounting hardware available with a Torx or spline drive? These drive heads seem preferable to Phillips since they are nearly impervious to cam-out whereas Phillips are designed to cam-out once the bolt is driven snug tight. This would be very convienent!