2010/2011 union force or flux tt30's - Snowboarding Forum

Alexst · 09-17-2011, 09:08 AM

I have narrowed my search down to these two bindings. 180lbs 5'11 mostly riding groomers and powder with a little park. Mainly jumps not rails and other stuff. I am going last year due to cost on a 2010 ride alibi board I don't know what the main differences are though. Leaning towards the flux now after research on here any help appreciated.

idshred · 09-17-2011, 10:18 AM

I own both. I really like both. IMO they are really similar in that they are both a mid stiff do it all binding. The toe straps on the flux binders are better suited for a bigger variety of boots. However, I could count the times on one hand that the toe straps on the unions slipped off my toes on my nike zf1's. They don't generally work well on boots with a rounded toe. The highback on the tt30's is stiffer overall. Front to back the forces are just as stiff though. The highbacks on the tt30's are also a little bit shorter. My main issue with the tt30's is the lack of full footbed padding and zero underbase dampening... they are behind in that aspect to most other bindings in the ~200 dollar price range. This year I will probably ride my tt30's on my ns proto and my forces on my capita charlie slasher... last year I had my forces on a indoor survival fk... one of my favorite combos i've ever ridden. I've never really had the issues on my unions that people here complain about(sticky ratchets, ratchets that slip....) I will say that releasing the straps was a little bit smoother on the tt30's when they were brand new, but the unions didn't take long at all... .they release with one finger. In the end, the only person that can decide which are better for you is yourself.

Alexst · 09-17-2011, 05:38 PM

Thanks for the reply. Sounds like both would suit my needs so I'll get my boots into the
and see how well they fit. Just want to make sure I put my money in the right place that's all. Cheers.

Qball · 09-17-2011, 06:04 PM

One thing i didn't like about flux was the horrible base padding, especially with nike boots that have a thinner sole. Decided to pick up some k2 formulas for cheap at a local place and I was blown away. Padding on the bottom is super comfortable, canting is comfortable, ratchets are so smooth, nice middle of the road flex, toe strap has never slipped, hinged strap keeps the straps out of the way when strapping in, they are super light, and they only cost me about 120 dollars

Alexst · 09-23-2011, 10:46 AM

How do the flux tt30 compare to the k2 formulas. I am looking at 2010/2011 bindings. I have decided a comfy all mountain binding would suit me best. Think either one would be fine. Does the flux have any benefits I've the formulas for the extra money does anyone know?

Alexst · 09-30-2011, 07:02 AM

Cant decide between the Flux TT 30's (£120) or the K2 Formulas (£98), both 2010/11 bindings, gonna order them this weekend.

Am I right in saying the Flux will have a more comfy strap and the K2's will have a more comfy footbed?

But the Formulas will be better for groomers etc due to being slightly stiffer, which is the type of riding I will be doing anyway?

Ahh, I know im over thinking this and that either would be fine, but I enjoy getting into the nitty gritty of it and knowing as much as I can about the differences!

Alexst · 10-02-2011, 04:31 AM

Went with last years formulas the toe strap fits beautifully and the binding feels really solid yet simple to adjust. £93 in the end so a bargain. Thanks all.

09-17-2011, 09:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
Alexst Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	2010/2011 union force or flux tt30's I have narrowed my search down to these two bindings. 180lbs 5'11 mostly riding groomers and powder with a little park. Mainly jumps not rails and other stuff. I am going last year due to cost on a 2010 ride alibi board I don't know what the main differences are though. Leaning towards the flux now after research on here any help appreciated.

09-17-2011, 10:18 AM	#2 (permalink)
idshred Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 113	I own both. I really like both. IMO they are really similar in that they are both a mid stiff do it all binding. The toe straps on the flux binders are better suited for a bigger variety of boots. However, I could count the times on one hand that the toe straps on the unions slipped off my toes on my nike zf1's. They don't generally work well on boots with a rounded toe. The highback on the tt30's is stiffer overall. Front to back the forces are just as stiff though. The highbacks on the tt30's are also a little bit shorter. My main issue with the tt30's is the lack of full footbed padding and zero underbase dampening... they are behind in that aspect to most other bindings in the ~200 dollar price range. This year I will probably ride my tt30's on my ns proto and my forces on my capita charlie slasher... last year I had my forces on a indoor survival fk... one of my favorite combos i've ever ridden. I've never really had the issues on my unions that people here complain about(sticky ratchets, ratchets that slip....) I will say that releasing the straps was a little bit smoother on the tt30's when they were brand new, but the unions didn't take long at all... .they release with one finger. In the end, the only person that can decide which are better for you is yourself. Last edited by idshred; 09-17-2011 at 01:03 PM.

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09-17-2011, 05:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
Alexst Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	Thanks for the reply. Sounds like both would suit my needs so I'll get my boots into the and see how well they fit. Just want to make sure I put my money in the right place that's all. Cheers.

09-17-2011, 06:04 PM	#4 (permalink)
Qball Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Mt. Hood, Oregon Posts: 1,273	One thing i didn't like about flux was the horrible base padding, especially with nike boots that have a thinner sole. Decided to pick up some k2 formulas for cheap at a local place and I was blown away. Padding on the bottom is super comfortable, canting is comfortable, ratchets are so smooth, nice middle of the road flex, toe strap has never slipped, hinged strap keeps the straps out of the way when strapping in, they are super light, and they only cost me about 120 dollars

09-23-2011, 10:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Alexst Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	How do the flux tt30 compare to the k2 formulas. I am looking at 2010/2011 bindings. I have decided a comfy all mountain binding would suit me best. Think either one would be fine. Does the flux have any benefits I've the formulas for the extra money does anyone know?

09-30-2011, 07:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
Alexst Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	Cant decide between the Flux TT 30's (£120) or the K2 Formulas (£98), both 2010/11 bindings, gonna order them this weekend. Am I right in saying the Flux will have a more comfy strap and the K2's will have a more comfy footbed? But the Formulas will be better for groomers etc due to being slightly stiffer, which is the type of riding I will be doing anyway? Ahh, I know im over thinking this and that either would be fine, but I enjoy getting into the nitty gritty of it and knowing as much as I can about the differences!

10-02-2011, 04:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Alexst Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 24	Went with last years formulas the toe strap fits beautifully and the binding feels really solid yet simple to adjust. £93 in the end so a bargain. Thanks all.