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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 09-20-2011, 05:46 PM Thread Starter
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Automatic Bindings?! PLEASE READ-need advice

PLEASE READ!!!!! I REALLY NEED ADVICE
Hey guys I'm doing a project for my engineering class. My project is to create a fully automatic snowboard binding. The purpose of me posting is to get your feedback and find out if manually buckling snowboard bindings is a legitimate problem for snowboarders out there. Your feed back and other (constructive) criticisms and comments would be a huge help.
Thanks for your time!!
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it is not a legitimate problem
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As someone who works in engineering design and based on what my experience with classes that try to teach the concept of engineering design and as someone who snowboards, it's not a problem.

However, you are probably going to want to consider "ease of operation" to be a metric to design around. You don't have to make the design easier than the current standard cage ratchet and nylon lattice strap setup but making it more difficult would definitely count against that design.

Is this a class where you create weighted attribute trees or matricies to quantitatively select one concept over another?
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the less bullshit the better...btw no boarding has the automatic binding feature...easy on and quick release...and they are also invisible.


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Dude,rephrase the question. Buckling bindings is not a problem... legitimate or otherwise. But if u ask "can bindings in general, or buckles in particular, be improved?",, then my answer would be : yes.. probably. But only incrementally because bindings are already fairly evolved. If u survey the dozens of bindings available today on the market, you will realize that collectively thousands of hours of design time has gone into these.. probably tens of thousands actually. Just what is your mission exactly? Improvement. Complete redesign. Speed. Ease. Strength. Market gimmicks. Be careful how u answer. The quality of the question matters alot. Your question was so vague, and so lame, i am like "WTF up with that.. ? "

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PLEASE READ!!!!! I REALLY NEED ADVICE
Hey guys I'm doing a project for my engineering class. My project is to create a fully automatic snowboard binding. The purpose of me posting is to get your feedback and find out if manually buckling snowboard bindings is a legitimate problem for snowboarders out there. Your feed back and other (constructive) criticisms and comments would be a huge help.
Thanks for your time!!
It isn't a huge problem but can be an inconvenience. At my hill a run might take 2-3 minutes tops so binding like Flows or K2 Cinch make a lot of sense. No point spending half the time it takes to get a run in strapping in. As well, the older you get the less time you want to spend sitting, strapping and then getting back up instead of snapping the highback up and just riding away.
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Ballistic's right. Define your goals, define your metrics. Don't expect to come up with something revolutionary. A lot of very smart people have been trying to do the same thing as you, and they're being paid for it.

I think the Ride Contrabands were a great concept -- use one buckle instead of two. See if there's a variation on that.


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Dammit, I had typed a huge response in the other thread and it was deleted before I could submit. oh well...

Anyways, OP do you personally snowboard?

Do you know anything about bindings?

Have you watched or experienced the progression of bindings over the years?

And no, it's not a problem.




EDIT: My friend had these and absolutely hated them.


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Dammit, I had typed a huge response in the other thread and it was deleted before I could submit. oh well...

Anyways, OP do you personally snowboard? Do you know anything about bindings? Have you watched or experienced the progression of bindings over the years?

And no, it's not a problem.
Sorry Wasatchman. I had put a response in that other thread too, and then saw it was a duplicate, so I deleted it. Sometimes it just happens that way...
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i got contrabands last year and let me tell you, the design is a giant piece of shit. the front band that goes over your boot goes over the INSIDE of your boot, such that the OUTSIDE of your boot (facing front) will get snow buried under it till there is enough to pop the whole boot out. the process is not only impossible to ride with but also extremely uncomfortable. if you only ride ice/park/street they would work fine. they have absolutely ZERO business in SNOW.

yea i'm pissed, i got this useless shit, from a useless shop, oh i'm digressing cuz i'm pissed.....

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