Cartel/Malavita/390Boss - Snowboarding Forum

farnsworth · 10-30-2011, 08:12 AM

Decisions decisions...

Getting ready to buy some 2012 binders for a NS Proto CTX 158. Current boots are 32 lashed, size 12.

6'2" and 195#. I ride the whole mountain both in and out of bounds. About half my time is spent in the park with more jumps than jibs.

Out of these, the only ones I've ridden are the cartels and I liked them. My local shop has the restricted version and if I went with the cartel, I would do the restricted for the upgraded strap. I believe these would be the stiffest of the 3 and I'm wondering if they might be so stiff that I would lose some playfulness of the ride.

I'm digging the malavitas and I could also find the restricted version around here with the winged high back. These things are 30 bucks more than the cartels and 390's. I'm not sure how much softer these would be and I don't know if the wings do anything but it seems like it could be beneficial, especially in the pow and park.

Never ridden a Rome binding but the 390 boss has the canted footbeds and alot of people seem to like them. These don't appear to me as simple/durable as the Burtons. Example: the plastic piece on the toestrap that makes it adjustable seems like it could easily open up or even break while riding.

Any and all input is appreciated.

Nivek · 10-30-2011, 04:08 PM

They are all pretty similar and will match well with the Proto. Stiffness is probably Cartel>Malavita>390 but all will ride park and all mountain well on the Proto. Which ones are most comfortable or which do you think match (color) the best? Get those.

farnsworth · 10-31-2011, 05:22 PM

Does anyone have any feedback on the durability of the Romes? I have a pair of 2 year old cartels with about 60 days on them and they've held up real well.

Nivek · 10-31-2011, 11:24 PM

Honestly Burton's binding durability is hard to match. That said, 390's will do just fine under normal riding conditions.

fattrav · 10-31-2011, 11:45 PM

Tough decisions there OP. All three are very good bindings suited to that board, and all looked damned nice too.

I have been pondering these three also, as replacements for my CO2s on my SL, which I am kinda finding are a little to stiff for my liking and for the board. I have been thinking about the cartels and the malavitas more than the romes though, only because I have a boner for Burton. Im just not to sure as to which I would want, I think the Malavitas are a slightly higher tech over the cartels, but its pretty even.

Really, I think either of the three would be fine for you. I would go try them all on with your boot, and go with; what ever is the most comfortable, what ever fits your boot the best, what ever you can get the best discount on, or what ever looks nicest (in that order).

farnsworth · 11-06-2011, 08:41 AM

Thanks for the input fellas. Decided on the vitas. My local mountain is opening this week-let it snow

Raines · 11-09-2011, 03:08 PM

hi

i am in almost the same quest

I am getting malavitas and cartel restricted

I have a Bataleon the jam 161 but i was thinking of a proto

i am 6.2" and 210 pounds... do you think i can get away with the proto CT 158 for all mountain? the 160 has a lot of effective edge....

i wear 10.5 burton ion

i might get a PROTO 158 for malavitas and a SL 161 for cartel

Raines · 11-09-2011, 06:17 PM

i got an email that someone answered here but i see no answer

BigmountainVMD · 11-09-2011, 07:13 PM

I'm picking up the Proto CTX 160 and will probably be slapping some Burton Prophecy bindings on it... I like a little bit stiffer binding but the Cartels are just a bit more stiff than I want and the Vitas are too soft... I have a buddy who swears by his Vitas though, says they are the most comfortable bindings he has ever owned --> super kush straps.

fattrav · 11-09-2011, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigmountainVMD

I'm picking up the Proto CTX 160 and will probably be slapping some Burton Prophecy bindings on it... I like a little bit stiffer binding but the Cartels are just a bit more stiff than I want and the Vitas are too soft... I have a buddy who swears by his Vitas though, says they are the most comfortable bindings he has ever owned --> super kush straps.

Cartel is softer than the prophecy is it not? I find my CO2s a little to stiff for my SL, but could see the selection you've opted for working.

10-30-2011, 08:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
farnsworth Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 12	Cartel/Malavita/390Boss Decisions decisions... Getting ready to buy some 2012 binders for a NS Proto CTX 158. Current boots are 32 lashed, size 12. 6'2" and 195#. I ride the whole mountain both in and out of bounds. About half my time is spent in the park with more jumps than jibs. Out of these, the only ones I've ridden are the cartels and I liked them. My local shop has the restricted version and if I went with the cartel, I would do the restricted for the upgraded strap. I believe these would be the stiffest of the 3 and I'm wondering if they might be so stiff that I would lose some playfulness of the ride. I'm digging the malavitas and I could also find the restricted version around here with the winged high back. These things are 30 bucks more than the cartels and 390's. I'm not sure how much softer these would be and I don't know if the wings do anything but it seems like it could be beneficial, especially in the pow and park. Never ridden a Rome binding but the 390 boss has the canted footbeds and alot of people seem to like them. These don't appear to me as simple/durable as the Burtons. Example: the plastic piece on the toestrap that makes it adjustable seems like it could easily open up or even break while riding. Any and all input is appreciated.

10-30-2011, 04:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,367	They are all pretty similar and will match well with the Proto. Stiffness is probably Cartel>Malavita>390 but all will ride park and all mountain well on the Proto. Which ones are most comfortable or which do you think match (color) the best? Get those. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-31-2011, 11:24 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,367	Honestly Burton's binding durability is hard to match. That said, 390's will do just fine under normal riding conditions. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-31-2011, 11:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
fattrav Veteran Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 1,057	Tough decisions there OP. All three are very good bindings suited to that board, and all looked damned nice too. I have been pondering these three also, as replacements for my CO2s on my SL, which I am kinda finding are a little to stiff for my liking and for the board. I have been thinking about the cartels and the malavitas more than the romes though, only because I have a boner for Burton. Im just not to sure as to which I would want, I think the Malavitas are a slightly higher tech over the cartels, but its pretty even. Really, I think either of the three would be fine for you. I would go try them all on with your boot, and go with; what ever is the most comfortable, what ever fits your boot the best, what ever you can get the best discount on, or what ever looks nicest (in that order). __________________ Never Summer SL153 & Atomic Hatchet 159 Burton CO2 Nitro Teams

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10-31-2011, 05:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
farnsworth Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 12	Does anyone have any feedback on the durability of the Romes? I have a pair of 2 year old cartels with about 60 days on them and they've held up real well.

11-06-2011, 08:41 AM	#6 (permalink)
farnsworth Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 12	Thanks for the input fellas. Decided on the vitas. My local mountain is opening this week-let it snow

11-09-2011, 03:08 PM	#7 (permalink)
Raines Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 224	hi i am in almost the same quest I am getting malavitas and cartel restricted I have a Bataleon the jam 161 but i was thinking of a proto i am 6.2" and 210 pounds... do you think i can get away with the proto CT 158 for all mountain? the 160 has a lot of effective edge.... i wear 10.5 burton ion i might get a PROTO 158 for malavitas and a SL 161 for cartel

11-09-2011, 06:17 PM	#8 (permalink)
Raines Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 224	i got an email that someone answered here but i see no answer

11-09-2011, 07:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigmountainVMD Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 683	I'm picking up the Proto CTX 160 and will probably be slapping some Burton Prophecy bindings on it... I like a little bit stiffer binding but the Cartels are just a bit more stiff than I want and the Vitas are too soft... I have a buddy who swears by his Vitas though, says they are the most comfortable bindings he has ever owned --> super kush straps.