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Old 12-01-2011, 09:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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IMO the Missions are one of the worst pair of bindings I've ever ridden in my entire life.

I'd recommend Ride Capo, Rome Targa, Burton Cartel, or Flux SF45 among others.

BTW, 509 area code, right? So you're on the east side of the state? Where do you ride?
Missions have the exact same baseplate(30 % glass/nylon composite) as cartels. The only difference between the two bindings is that the cartels have b3 gel in the heel, upgraded buckles, and zero lean in the highback. For 12 the cartels are only re:flex or est...missions are est, 'regular' disc, and they have a late release mission re:flex. Missions are a pretty badass binding for 200 dollars. I freakin love the new react ankle strap that the re:flex missions have. Anyways, thats fine that you didn't like missions, I read that all the time, but it makes me laugh because so many people love the cartels, but missions are super similar to cartels, esp. since last year when the mission inherited the skyback II highback from the cartels.
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Old 12-01-2011, 09:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I think people have a negative impression of the missions because the older versions were... not very good. I have a pair of '09 missions that are flimsy piles of crap compared to just about anything else I've ever used.

The most recent model years do seem to be a very solid binding though.
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:20 PM   #23 (permalink)
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im not saying the missions are bad. they are prob great bindings but what i have read is that they are not the best. the cartals are alot more ligther. i will let every one know after tomorrow. which will be my first day on the slop. going to white pass any one else going up?
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I am rocking my T Rice with Union Forces. Good all around bulletproof binding for $200. I ride trees and steeps for the most part, not really a park rider drop small cliffs, hit wind lips, ect and have been loving the combination so far.

As far as a toe cap goes though they have a hybrid system that can be a strap or a cap. Never really rocked them as toe caps but I will go mess around with it right now and post back in a few

EDIT: Just checked it out they slide off my my 14's pretty easy (Damn my big feet) but i threw in my buddies 12's and it held really well. I could not get it to slide off like I did with my boots. Maybe someone else who rides them regularly as a toe cap can chime in.
had over 100 days last season on forces. used them as toe caps and never slipped once. i don't understand the gripe with last years forces?
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Old 12-01-2011, 11:41 PM   #25 (permalink)
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im not saying the missions are bad. they are prob great bindings but what i have read is that they are not the best. the cartals are alot more ligther. i will let every one know after tomorrow. which will be my first day on the slop. going to white pass any one else going up?
did you buy the cartels locally? If so, I would hope that the shop dudes would have explained to you what re:flex bindings are. I would imagine that the missions that you had were reg. disc bindings... so yea, there is a bunch of material that is in a reg. burton disc binding that wouldn't be in your re:flex cartels. Hence why they are lighter.

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Old 12-02-2011, 12:05 AM   #26 (permalink)
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ya at a board shop in my city. but they didnt really tell me anything. i new about the reflex disc thing. we will see how they work.
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Old 12-02-2011, 02:16 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Travis Rice rides the burton cartel bindings, that should say something.
This is a common misconception. Yes, at one point in time T. Rice rode a Cartel. Travis Rice does not ride the Cartel today and he did not ride the Cartel in The Art of Flight as someone stated on this board.

Travis Rice rode the Burton Prophecy during most of that shoot - the first Burton binding equipped with the Re:Flex tech. Although you will not find this in the press - Travis Rice collaborated with Burton to develop this tech.

The Cartel is a great "go-to" middle of the road binding - but it isn't worth a penny over it's price bracket. The T. Rice 164 is stiff and aggressive - you're going to want more from your binding than what the Cartel will deliver.

My two cents..
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Old 12-03-2011, 04:29 AM   #28 (permalink)
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ok so guys went to white pass today. pretty good day for not having new snow in a while.still a great day with a good friend. but the bindings did good and the board was amazing. but my ass, feet, abs, legs, everything hurts haha. i did have one problem. the whole day it felt like my boots or my bindings where stabing me in my leg. right under my calf. it hurt alot and did not maked snowboarding fun. and now after after like 6 hours, its still red where it was hurting. i thing it was my boots being to tight but i dont know. what could it be?
heres a pic at the top of white pass, mt rainer.
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Old 12-03-2011, 06:03 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Whats your forward lean setting? Are the high backs flush with your boots or is there a gap? If thats the case the the high backs might "keep hitting" you in the area beneath the calv muscle. or... you might have set an too agressive foward lean which keeps pressure on the same area.

Im guessing the first option is the bad guy here though...crank the forward lean until the high backs top is snug with the backside of your boot.
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Old 12-03-2011, 05:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
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This is a common misconception. Yes, at one point in time T. Rice rode a Cartel. Travis Rice does not ride the Cartel today and he did not ride the Cartel in The Art of Flight as someone stated on this board.

Travis Rice rode the Burton Prophecy during most of that shoot - the first Burton binding equipped with the Re:Flex tech. Although you will not find this in the press - Travis Rice collaborated with Burton to develop this tech.

The Cartel is a great "go-to" middle of the road binding - but it isn't worth a penny over it's price bracket. The T. Rice 164 is stiff and aggressive - you're going to want more from your binding than what the Cartel will deliver.

My two cents..
Give me some picks then, I just got a T Rice as well.
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