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Old 01-06-2012, 03:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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This season I got a Burton Hero with the EST channel and mission bindings to go with it. I figured there might be a problem with the binding sliding around while riding because of the way they mount with only 2 screws but after the first 5 rides this season they held firm and didn't budge.... until now. So I just wanted to see if this was a common issue with the est channel and what other people did to fix it. So if you've had this problem with the est binding setup with Burton and found a way to fix it I'd love to hear what you did.

I like the full adjustablility of the est channel but I can't have them sliding around while I'm trying to ride. I was thinking about using some 2-sided tape to stick them down and keep them from slipping but that makes it difficult to adjust on top of the mountain if I need to.
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Old 01-06-2012, 04:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I tighten the screws once a week (I ride 4-5 times a week). Usually the screw doesn't move at all, but it makes me feel better.
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:38 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I use blue thread lock on my hardware so it doesn't come loose. When I re-tighted them after I got down the slope they just did the same thing two runs later. I'm starting to worry its going to be a very common problem. I got those screws as tight as I could and I had plenty of grip to tighten with the rubber palms on my gloves. It was only the back binding so far (right foot).
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Old 01-06-2012, 09:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I ride a Burton Hero too.
The first year I rode it (last year, the 2011 model), the bindings came loose alot. I permanently carried a screw driver around in my pocket. It was extremely frustrating.
I didn't want it to happen this year so I posted a question about it here, (http://www.snowboardingforum.com/sno...anel-help.html) and I got lots of helpful answers.

I personally wasn't too keen on modifying my screws with locktite, so this year I've been taking "Nivek's" advice which was to just tighten them again once I was out in the cold weather.
So far its worked really well, when I get the opportunity after a few runs to tighten them again, I do. And sometimes the screw it a little loose, but not so that the binding is moving like it was last season. I haven't had any problems that effect my riding with it so far this year.

You also learn what will make it worse and what won't. The more tail/nose presses you do, the quicker it will loosen. Leaving the board dangling off your foot rather then using the board rest on the chair lift will also aid in loosening it.

Hope I was of some help,
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Old 01-07-2012, 02:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Must just be me but I really cranked the screws down and have held super well, haven't touched the screws this year at all, and been a while since I touched them last season. Running Triad EST's on an X8.
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Old 01-07-2012, 03:03 AM   #6 (permalink)
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makes it difficult to adjust on top of the mountain if I need to.
That's your problem.

I rode Burton est boards for the last 2 years, had no problems with them, own multiple and im stoked on the channel.

#1. The screwdrivers at the hill at the tool-benches suck ass.
#2. With my experiences with the EST, if it loosens on you during the day your screwed, every time you slide it around and shit re-mounting it snow, dirt, whatever else, gets caught in the binding when you re-mount it and it makes it so you cant tighten it down properly.

Mount your board at your house and leave it, take your "#3 Phillips" and crank down on your hardware as tight as you can. and Voila! your set. when you go up riding, double check and re-tighten it in the parking lot before you start your day. You should be set for the season.

I have never had issues with the channel. I guarentee you have nothing wrong with your board or binding.

If you stick with one stance and dont play around with it its gonna hold, once you touch it to "tool" with your stance at the top of the hill (nice pun eh?) its gonna make it a bitch to keep tight on the hill

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Old 01-07-2012, 03:13 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Im usually to lazy to find the table or bench with a tool so I just carry a burton bullet in a pocket, works well.
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That's your problem.

I rode Burton est boards for the last 2 years, had no problems with them, own multiple and im stoked on the channel.

#1. The screwdrivers at the hill at the tool-benches suck ass.
#2. With my experiences with the EST, if it loosens on you during the day your screwed, every time you slide it around and shit re-mounting it snow, dirt, whatever else, gets caught in the binding when you re-mount it and it makes it so you cant tighten it down properly.

Mount your board at your house and leave it, take your "#3 Phillips" and crank down on your hardware as tight as you can. and Voila! your set. when you go up riding, double check and re-tighten it in the parking lot before you start your day. You should be set for the season.

I have never had issues with the channel. I guarentee you have nothing wrong with your board or binding.

If you stick with one stance and dont play around with it its gonna hold, once you touch it to "tool" with your stance at the top of the hill (nice pun eh?) its gonna make it a bitch to keep tight on the hill
I don't ride burton boards, one of the reasons I would like to is that the channel (supposedly) makes it easier to adjust your stance on the hill. Dialing in more setback for pow or centering it up for freestyle.

What you are saying seems to negate one of the big benefits of the channel.

One of the reasons I don't ride burton (channel) is they seem to stand a much better chance of getting loose while riding.

I like the idea of better board feel and flex though.
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Old 01-07-2012, 04:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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That's your problem.

If you stick with one stance and dont play around with it its gonna hold, once you touch it to "tool" with your stance at the top of the hill (nice pun eh?) its gonna make it a bitch to keep tight on the hill
Well thats just shit isn't it.
The boards need 2x channels running parallel to each other then you could use 4 bolts instead of 2. They could also make them a different profile again just to make them completely unusable with any previous gear. All your m6 and m5 channel gear would be no good so you would be out buying more bindings for no reason. Sounds right up burtons alley.
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Old 01-07-2012, 06:02 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Use a good quality #3 screwdriver and you shouldn't have a problem. I'm 4 years on est with no issues, great system.
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