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Old 01-10-2012, 01:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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SO hard to not to yell "COPIERS!!!"
I see, people jumped on the easy entry binding market after Flow and they are cool even though they have highbacks that drop down and lock up. Flow takes all critique and competition into consideration and redesigns their product and they are the copiers.

Makes sense to me.

One aspect of the NX2 I would say was copied is the webbed toe strap. Screams RIDE. I'm not complaining though as I'm a big fan of that design.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
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As with most things these days, there's very few original ideas left. What matters is the execution.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:21 PM   #13 (permalink)
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As with most things these days, there's very few original ideas left. What matters is the execution.
And form follows function with bindings. You can't make some wildly different that's function is to strap feet to a board.
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SO hard to not to yell "COPIERS!!!"
Oh yeah? Is it? Why cause they're doing a lifted strap? Who copied who first? Drop down highbacks was a Flow first. Oops. Go home.
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Oh yeah? Is it? Why cause they're doing a lifted strap? Who copied who first? Drop down highbacks was a Flow first. Oops. Go home.
I can't wait to get my hands on these.
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Oh yeah? Is it? Why cause they're doing a lifted strap? Who copied who first? Drop down highbacks was a Flow first. Oops. Go home.
The highback rising WITH the plate look exactly as my K2 Cinch CTX system. Best entry ever. Especially with skinny boots.
Looks cool, but they haven't simplified the design...it has 3 straps instead of 2 now.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:27 PM   #17 (permalink)
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And form follows function with bindings. You can't make some wildly different that's function is to strap feet to a board.
I strongly Agree... and this statement has cooled my fire down immensely. thank you.


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Oh yeah? Is it? Why cause they're doing a lifted strap? Who copied who first? Drop down highbacks was a Flow first. Oops. Go home.
Im not out to offend. Nivek i know you are a strong supporter of Flow. i opposingly support K2. ( i have no hard feelings) Yes flow got into the drop down bindings before k2... but not first*. More upset in that they took the lifting strap idea. As grafta said there isnt many things to do. but atleast change the idea to make it better.

*I have a pair of vintage nidecker rear entry bindings from mid 90s
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Had to look that up zKoot lol. Nidecker Soft Back'in soft bindings? Released in '96. Flow was also in '96 but after Nidecker.

Flow utilizes the "Power Triangle" which I believe is patented.

Anyway, all of this is just interesting discussion topic. Point is, Flow redesigned their binding completely in response to all the criticism/suggestions. That is awesome no matter how you slice it.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Was looking to get into the quick entry bindings after this season. Might have to check these out if the reviews are good. Never be the first to try anything new unless its free lol.
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Old 01-10-2012, 03:58 PM   #20 (permalink)
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yea they were super ugly... lol

all i can do is accept it... i really have no foot to stand on now selling cinch to my customers.
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