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Old 01-10-2012, 06:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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i had an old pair of flite 2s from a few years back. they were great convenience but i felt they didn't grip as well as i'd liked, and strapping in quick doesn't mean much when you have to wait for your buddies to get in themselves...

but i'd be very much willing to revisit them. i think a common complaint (aside from grip) was that the highbacks are very stiff and the base plate doesn't allow you to flex your board as easily. how true are these claims?

of course, any other opinions about these bindings (and the company) are appreciated.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:16 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The micro-ratchets on my NXT-FSE sometimes slip on the ladder, or are very hard to unlock if my boot is still in and there's immense pressure on the clip. Oddly my old NXT-FS never does this. Having a proper full-sized ratchet is gonna be great.


As for what happens to K2 and GNU, there strap side of the binding world can support many binding makers all doing the same stuff, I don't see why they can't co-exist. It'll just become a war of micro-updates like the strap bindings. People will choose by preference, style, price, etc.
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Old 01-10-2012, 07:19 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I think GNU and the like will still be around. People like choices, and have brand preferences. I have friends who swear by the Cinch, and won't ride anything else, so I can't imagine they'd come over to Flow at this point. I'm super stoked on this design, and definitely hope to check these out at SIA
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Old 01-11-2012, 01:12 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Just bring back Clicker! Saw these bindings last month and got to play with them insanely light, easy to open on the ratchets, sturdy, canted, I"m thinking these are going to be the game changer for Flow and some of the haters.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:20 AM   #35 (permalink)
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For what its worth, i had some 2010 k2 ctc cinch and hated them i thought they were clunky, heavy had no padded footbeds and hated the ratchets. I swore i wouldn't touch rear entry bindings again but these flows have me reconsidering.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:44 AM   #36 (permalink)
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WOW flow just stepped it up. I have been riding NXT AT bindings for a few years now but I recently purchased some fastec bindings to gain more clearance on entry and exit. This new flow design addresses the same issue but does it in a single motion with less parts. Well done flow.
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Old 01-11-2012, 05:05 AM   #37 (permalink)
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When I saw that Flow did almost nothing new for this season I figured they were working on something big for next. That's why I picked up last season's ATSE's. This new stuff has exceeded my wildest imagination. Such a simple yet genius solution. Not having canting was the only thing that really made me question getting Flows and was the reason I didn't push my friend hard to get Flows.

By the way. I remember the thing about Flows not being able to have canting because of the rocker base. I believed then as I do now that it was PR bullshit to keep Flow from looking bad for not having when every one else did.
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Old 01-11-2012, 02:57 PM   #38 (permalink)
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So if these binders were a car, they say it usually takes a model year or so to work out the design flaws and material glitches. I'm a big Flow fan, and have had a number of sets over the years, and currently ride a pair of last years NXT-ATSEs, so I want them to do well. But I'm also thinking that I'll likely have to chew on my wallet hand, ride out the 2011's, and see how these new ones shake out.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:00 PM   #39 (permalink)
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So if these binders were a car, they say it usually takes a model year or so to work out the design flaws and material glitches. I'm a big Flow fan, and have had a number of sets over the years, and currently ride a pair of last years NXT-ATSEs, so I want them to do well. But I'm also thinking that I'll likely have to chew on my wallet hand, ride out the 2011's, and see how these new ones shake out.
If we can get our hands on these at Test Fest, David Z and I are planning on riding them all day on numerous boards this Feb. We want to fully test these bindings out as it's a pretty radical change to Flow bindings.

We will definitely post our thoughts in them shortly after.
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Old 01-11-2012, 03:32 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Okay totally noob question about Flow bindings...

With conventional bindings...when I pack my board/bindings into my board bag...I fold my high backs down and ratchet the straps over it to make the form factor as small as possible. How does one do that with Flow bindings (even the old design)? If you were to keep the high backs down...in the "open entry/exit position"...it would hang over the edge of the board...and be too wide to fit in a board bag...is there something you disconnect? This is just a random question that came to mind...
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