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Old 12-24-2012, 08:11 AM   #291 (permalink)
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Had my first day on my NX2-SE's yesterday. First they feel great and have great response. I felt locked in but not clamped down. Just a solid and comfortable connection to the board. When the ratchets were correct (more on that latter) getting in and out was a breeze and easier then my 2010 NXT-ATSE's. A few issues. The toe strap being down was an issue but a very minor one. Before putting my foot in I would just pull it up (if needed) right before brushing any snow out of the binding. I have an idea that should reduce the movement of the toe strap and be easy to do. I'll have to monkey with things a bit. My biggest issue was one I did not expect in any way. When I went to strap in my rear foot I would sometimes find the ratchet had tightened. This is how I found hat just one click tighter cause a massive pressure point on my achilles tendon. Just now I simply tried pushing on the strap with my hand and the ratchets tightened even though they were locked. Trying the same with my older NXT-ATSE's I couldn't get the locked mini-ratchet to move no matter how hard I tried.
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Old 12-25-2012, 04:35 AM   #292 (permalink)
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I had a full day to test the GTs, and if i could describe the experience in one word, it would be "magnificent".

It took me a few run to get used to strapping in standing up, and yes the straps took a few minutes to adjust properly, but once I had everything dialed up, my god what a difference it made to my riding over the old forum factions I used to ride. Great response, and awesome amount of stiffness to bend my big ass board.

Strapping in was a breeze once I got used to it, and it easily saved me at lest 3 minutes each run, so if you do the math, I did over 20 runs today, so that's almost 60 minutes of saved time = profit!

Overall I'm super pleased with them, no more pressure points, and the feeling was very supportive! Like if my board/bindings/boots were all one.

Super pleased.
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Old 12-25-2012, 09:39 PM   #293 (permalink)
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I have had a chance to use the nx2-se 3 times so far. And I am liking it a lot. I have had experienced some of the same problems other have said they were having, like the toe cap moving, the heel getting caught on the highback, and once my ratchet randomly got tighter after getting off the lift and the ratchet was locked.

Some of the things that helped me were, that I switched the toe caps on the bindings as some people have mentioned here before, and I think it's also on the flow website (Left to right, right to left). For me it doesn't move around too much like this.

Also about the heel getting caught, I found that if I lifted my heel a little bit as I am closing the blinding it does not get caught and the binding is easier to close.

If I ever do have trouble getting into the binding, I never adjust the toe cap, I loosen the bigger strap a little and my boot goes in without a problem, just another extra litte step to tighten it back up once its closed.

But the more and more I am using these, The more I find it easier getting in to. Hope this was able to help someone out. I think these bindings are great and I can't wait to ride some more!
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:38 PM   #294 (permalink)
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I switched the toe caps on the bindings as some people have mentioned here before, and I think it's also on the flow website (Left to right, right to left). For me it doesn't move around too much like this.
got a link on this haven't been to Flow's site yet. Tomorrow will be my 1st day on my Flows. The winter here along with my work schedule, this is the first week I can get out and actually do some riding. Hoping dialing these in goes smooth.
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Old 12-25-2012, 11:53 PM   #295 (permalink)
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John not sure you knew this or not as I did 'not' I just found it in there video.
After you tighten the ratchet's if you push the release lever 'down' it will actually lock the ratchet so it won't open or close. That is a very similar feature to the 2010 SE's mini ratchets that you could lock.

the set-up video also mentions as Random pointed out flipping the toe caps around binding to binding. If I have to I'll try this but we will see how they work with my boots tomorrow.
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Old 12-26-2012, 12:46 AM   #296 (permalink)
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I have had a chance to use the nx2-se 3 times so far. And I am liking it a lot. I have had experienced some of the same problems other have said they were having, like the toe cap moving, the heel getting caught on the highback, and once my ratchet randomly got tighter after getting off the lift and the ratchet was locked.

Some of the things that helped me were, that I switched the toe caps on the bindings as some people have mentioned here before, and I think it's also on the flow website (Left to right, right to left). For me it doesn't move around too much like this.

Also about the heel getting caught, I found that if I lifted my heel a little bit as I am closing the blinding it does not get caught and the binding is easier to close.

If I ever do have trouble getting into the binding, I never adjust the toe cap, I loosen the bigger strap a little and my boot goes in without a problem, just another extra litte step to tighten it back up once its closed.

But the more and more I am using these, The more I find it easier getting in to. Hope this was able to help someone out. I think these bindings are great and I can't wait to ride some more!
i actually didn't know about switching the toe caps; i must have missed that part of the thread. i'll look into it on the Flow website (and here) but i guess if you can provide a link i'd greatly appreciate it! anyway, a couple more points now that i got to use these more (NX2-GT)

i spent 8 more days on it since my post, and i have a little more positive spin. i remember the manual Flow provides mentions that you're not supposed to tighten the bindings down THAT much. with that in mind, i found it much easier to get in and out of them after the initial setup. on my Ride Rodeo, i always strapped in really tight so it was a bit of a weird feeling, but now that i'm used to it i don't notice any difference in response. i stopped really caring about the toe cap, only occasionally tightening it when for some reason it looked loose (??) and i barely notice it. i remember the review on angrysnowboarder also echoes this sentiment. i still adjust it if it ends up hanging too low off my boot, but for the most part i leave it be...

the highback issue is still a big one to me albeit less so once i had my setup to be snug but not tight. occasionally this still happens, and i overcome it by more or less forcing my boot in...basically there seems to be one spot where i can close the highback, but before reaching that point it gets stuck (all or nothing). i never tried to lift my heel, but IIRC the highbacks on my older Flite 2s operated as a lever that lifted it FOR you. so a big disappointment this isn't the case.

that being said, the binding itself is pretty solid. i use them on a Gnu Riders' Choice 2012 (BTX) and it feels very responsive compared to my Ride Rodeos or Union Contacts. The turn initiation is there and feels more or less effortless, and i kind of buy into how the whole cable system works to pull you onto your edge. i love the versatility of the traditional strap-in vs. rear-entry. our upper mountain lifts were on wind hold one day so a buddy and i hiked up a few trails. we would drop in on some pitched areas where stepping in would be incredibly difficult; having the option to sit down and strap in normally is pretty nice.

overall, i'm pleased about the bindings themselves. the performance is definitely there and while these cost quite a bit, i don't regret the purchase because 1) i work and live with low expenses and 2) for better or worse i'm a junkie for new tech in all my hobbies. however, as one of the members of the small echelon of high-priced bindings, i expected a bit more and felt Flow only met me part of the way in expectations. while the design philosophy is there, the execution isn't as great. suggestions would include milling the bottom of the highback a bit (i never brought out the ruler, but i'd say as little as a quarter inch would help immensely) and develop some locking mechanism to keep the toe strap in place. this is not to say no binding company is immune even at the $300+ price point; just two years ago i remember Union had pretty sketchy toe straps on their $400 MCs, but i'd love to see Flow take the next step in evolving these because i really think their thought is in the right direction.
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Old 12-26-2012, 03:07 AM   #297 (permalink)
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Setting Up Flow Hybrid Powercapstraps on Vimeo

There is the video that shows switching the toe strap around.

Flow "How To" Videos on Vimeo

There is Flow's "how to" channel.

Slyder, I was aware of the locking part of the ratchet. As I said I can get the ratchets to move relatively easily even when locked. The mini ratchets on my NXT-SE'2 don't move when lock no matter how hard I try. I'm thinking I'll make a video showing the ratchets moving. After basically getting stuck in powder while in CO last winter I was stoked for the new ratchets. Now I'm not so sure.
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thank you for the link. i'll give it a shot and see how it goes. i was skeptical about it since it seems like a DIY solution but considering the instructional video mentions it i wonder if it was by design to do it this way.
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Old 12-26-2012, 08:39 PM   #299 (permalink)
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I finally got to step into my Flows today, NX2-SE's and I love them

Boots: K2 Rykers relatively small profile

I had no issues with getting the heel of the boot caught on the highback when locking it in.
The toe strap I wasn't sure what to expect after reading some of the issues people were having. I left them the way there were designed to see how it would work. I did have a little slippage but it was never loose in the toe or anything I felt for feedback when turning. I did pull up the strap once in a while again I felt no difference in the response of the board when I did this.

I did need to get used to adjusting these as there are more points of adjustment. I missed the top locking lever on the ankle strap. Actually I had it adjusted just not properly. I looked down while on the chair and noticed a large gap. I tightened that up and felt a bit better.

Like the other Flows I had to remember they don't need to be clamped down like a vice. Once I found the sweet spot I never adjusted them again, just like my old ones.

So hoping this may answer some questions and add input to the reviews of the new design. Any questions fire away, everyone seems to be really helpful on reviewing these.
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Old 12-27-2012, 01:52 PM   #300 (permalink)
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Here's a short edit from yesterday, there's a moment showing how long it takes me to strap in.

http://youtu.be/A7f7H2Lp8xk
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