Flow Binding 2013 Q & A - Page 35 - Snowboarding Forum

john doe · 01-16-2013, 04:31 AM

An update about my ratchets. It took three calls and well over a week but I finally got a response to my warranty claim. They looked at my video and said that that was not normal. I now have a full new set of ratchets on their way. Here's hoping mine were just a crazy fluke and I get to really enjoy my bindings.

lonerider · 01-16-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lonerider

Hey, I spent the weekend trying to adjust my NX2-AT size medium to my Nitro Team Size 8 boots. I am new to actually using FLOW bindings so bear with me if I missed something obvious.

So I had what I assume is the standard problem of adjusting the power cuff such that it was easy to step into the binding... but still was some what attached to my boot when riding. It seemed if I were to adjust the binding and rachets on each side of the toe and ankle strap so there were just snug... then kicking my foot in enough so my boot heel was clear of the lowered highback was very difficult. I ended up just loosening the powercuff a bunch of clicks on the rachet side so I could step in easier, flip up the highback and then racheting down the cuff until it just barely touched my boot. This kind of worked although it wasn't ideal. Also the highback was still being crushed into the back of my boot (I could feel my achilles tendon being pinched through my boot and my whole foot was being push forward... such that my toes felt crushed into the front of my boot by the end of the day).

My only thoughts were maybe I need to either exchange for a size Large (Medium was sizes 6-8 and Large was size 8-10) or... I need to leave the power cuff loose on entry and assume that my boot will eventually slide forward into it after riding a few minutes???).

Any help would be appreciated... let me know if you want photos/video

I figured a video would be even better than photos. Sorry for the delay, I took an extra day to wait until I had time to shoot during the day when there was better lighting. The video has two video sequences of my trying various ankle/toe strap adjustment, I made the second sequence after reviewing the first and realizing the the boot might not slide forward enough if the toestrap is too tight.

Here is the photo of the the strap setting on the other side.

Does this look about right? Do you think I should exchange for pair of large bindings (I don't know, but it seems like Nitro Teams are a bit bulkier for a size 8 boot).

Thanks!

Wiredsport · 01-16-2013, 02:22 PM

That is the perfect size for you. The problem you are having is dry rubber sticking to dry rubber. Just the minor moisture from the slightest bit of snow lubes the system and will allow you much easier access even when the settings are tighter than in your vid. You do not want Large.

lonerider · 01-16-2013, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

That is the perfect size for you. The problem you are having is dry rubber sticking to dry rubber. Just the minor moisture from the slightest bit of snow lubes the system and will allow you much easier access even when the settings are tighter than in your vid. You do not want Large.

Thanks... yea, I typically always believe in sizing down in gear if I'm borderline (I can use Burton small bindings often). Anyways... how do the final settings I have with the Flow look? Is that typically what most people set it too? To be safe, I took out all the forward lean, but I think I'm going to move it back to the "middle setting" now.

Wiredsport · 01-16-2013, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lonerider

Thanks... yea, I typically always believe in sizing down in gear if I'm borderline (I can use Burton small bindings often). Anyways... how do the final settings I have with the Flow look? Is that typically what most people set it too? To be safe, I took out all the forward lean, but I think I'm going to move it back to the "middle setting" now.

Everyone uses Flow differently. Some riders like to pre-tighten so much that when they kick in their heel is left extending a few inches over the reclined highback. They then lift the back, stand down with their heel, and slip down the highback into place. Others leave things very loose, kick all the way in, and take a couple of ratchet swings while getting rolling. Some aim for a middle ground like you have in your vid.

lonerider · 01-16-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

Everyone uses Flow differently. Some riders like to pre-tighten so much that when they kick in their heel is left extending a few inches over the reclined highback. They then lift the back, stand down with their heel, and slip down the highback into place. Others leave things very loose, kick all the way in, and take a couple of ratchet swings while getting rolling. Some aim for a middle ground like you have in your vid.

Is it common for people who overtighten their bindings to get a "pinched" sensation in the heel area as the highback is squishing the back of the boot? This had the added negative of sliding my entire foot forward in my boot and slowly pushing my toes into the front of the boot (they are still pretty sore now).

Trox · 01-16-2013, 04:09 PM

I used all the NX2 hardware the only modification was using a 21/64 drill bit to enlarge the hole on the toe ladders. there is some slop in the heal ladders that could turn in to issue over time.

Also I got the NXT strap off of eBay just search for Flow strap and it will come up

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Originally Posted by john doe

Here's hoping mine were just a crazy fluke and I get to really enjoy my bindings.

Not a one off fluke realized my SE do the same once I took it off the binding, so I checked my AT and thankfully they do not.

eelpout · 01-16-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Flaus

I had my first outing on my NX2-AT...

Piece of advice for making kicking in easy, make sure the highback is completely extended down. If its up a little bit, the strap wont be fully extended and makes it tougher to kick-in.

I have XL NX2-SE's (w/Hybrid PowerCap and toe thingie) with Vans Contra boots (size 46) on a LibTech Jamie Lynn Phoenix.

I'll second that about the highback! Though even with it all extended, I find I have to refit the toe cap on *every re-entry*. But I'll take that slight annoyance for the flexibility of getting in sitting with my butt on the snow if I need to. Missed that with the regular Power strap.

The one thing I'm noticing though is there is more chance for the boot not being in the same place on the foot pad; I find more tendency for the boot placement to shift on entry than with regular the Power strap. I'm not sure if this is because I need to readjust the toe strap each time or what.

It's definitely a different feel than the regular Flow Power strap, it feels a bit more secure. My Vans boots fit better too with the new N.A.S.T.Y. setup, with less scraping of the heel than before.

Wiredsport · 01-16-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lonerider

Is it common for people who overtighten their bindings to get a "pinched" sensation in the heel area as the highback is squishing the back of the boot? This had the added negative of sliding my entire foot forward in my boot and slowly pushing my toes into the front of the boot (they are still pretty sore now).

What boots are you riding? A tight binding should not be doing that.

lonerider · 01-16-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wiredsport

What boots are you riding? A tight binding should not be doing that.

Nitro Team Size 8, this is only happening with the Flows, I think because I had the toe strap too tight and so the boot can't slide forward anymore... so when the highback flips up, it pushes in the back of the boot (shoving my foot forward).

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