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Old 01-29-2013, 08:20 AM   #381 (permalink)
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Since that is the case can I get my strap back.
We will be happy to send it back. Please PM your name and address.
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Old 01-30-2013, 06:57 PM   #382 (permalink)
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I figured out what the problem is with the ratchets not locking completely secure. The ladder strap isn't thick enough. Even while locked the ladder strap is thin enough to allow the ratchet teeth to move up about half the height of the strap teeth. I just tried using a spacer made from some cardboard under the strap and it now locks as good as my NXT ratchets do. I'm going to find some adhesive vinyl to line the underside of the ladder straps to fix the issue.

Wiredsports, since you have direct contact with Flow I'm hoping you can make them aware of what I found so they can fix it.
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Old 02-02-2013, 04:55 PM   #383 (permalink)
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Got my strap back and was playing with it and folded up a 3" sticky note and WOW John has nailed it with the ladder needs to be thicker with as thin as the sticky note is I should just be able to use some good Duct Tape as a spacer.
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:37 PM   #384 (permalink)
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Yep. Three strips/layers from my pack of vinyl Monster stickers on my straps is what I tried. After riding the past two days I didn't have a single slip.
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:09 PM   #385 (permalink)
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Woke up early enough for a few laps before work to test the duct tape on the ladder, and it did hold very well I did notice one time my foot hit the toe strap while skating but it didnít move at all. Later in the month will be the real test when I take the kids skiing to see if they were the reason I would find the LSR unlocked.
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:42 PM   #386 (permalink)
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For any late comers to this thread, allow me to distill some of the key points regarding NX2s from the previous 39 pages (which I've just read...you're welcome ) :

Disclaimers:
  • I don't own a set of NX2's (yet).
  • As always, there'll be disagreement on each of the points below. Some people have had no problems at all, and love their NX2s; others have had what I'd call "deal-breaker" issues. What I've tried to show below is (in my opinion) the consensus view...ie. what the majority of commenters seem to be saying.
  • If in doubt, please ask someone who actually knows (eg. Wiredsport). I'm just a guy trying to decide which ones to get myself...probably just like you. So don't take my word for it...

Key Points:
  1. General consensus seems to be: excellent bindings, most owners seem to be happy with the performance
  2. The difference between the four NX2 models, in terms of flex/stiffness, is minimal (i.e. nuanced, not radically different), and only differs in the upper 1/3 of the highback
  3. On the hybrid strap/toe cap models (GT / SE), there have been some concerns over the design of the toe cap. People complaining that the front strap falls down when not strapped in; required a little manual repositioning after strapping in. Can potentially be mitigated by swapping the left/right front straps (?).
  4. Weight is not an issue (Flows aren't significantly heavier than other conventional bindings). Myth: busted.
  5. If you have big feet (as in, really big...15+); you might have issues fitting into these bindings.
  6. The LSR ratchets sometimes don't actually 'lock' to prevent the strap from tightening if bumped. This may be due to a faulty set of ratchets/ladders (which Flow may replace under warranty), or simply a faulty design (ladder plastic not being thick enough for the ratchet to really bite into)
  7. You cannot (officially) swap the hybrid strap/toe cap for a traditional Flow powerstrap (i.e. Flow don't sell a conversion kit). That said, at least one person has managed to Frankenstein their set.

I think that's most of the key issues covered. As I said, this is all based on the vibe I got from reading this thread from start to finish. Your mileage may vary.

Now for my comments/questions....

I'm from the southern hemisphere, so the new 2014 models shown at SIA won't be ready in time for our season (Jun-Sep); hence I'm looking at picking up a set of 2013's (hopefully for a good price, as I'll be buying at the end of the northern hemisphere winter, ideally an end of season clearance sale).

I've loved the traditional Flow strap design for years. In fact, for me the NX2s will replace a trusty pair of 10 year old Flow Pro-C FRs...



(yeah, it's been a while...)

Regardless, I was prepared to take a chance on the new hybrid strap models (GT / SE), as I liked the idea of the toe cap preventing my boot from going too far forward when strapping in, plus having the option to strap in like a conventional 2-strap binding when the situation demands (eg. balancing on the heel edge on a steep hill, where it's difficult to drop the highbacks down fully).

However, given the various strap-related comments (toe cap issues, LSR locking issues, ladder thickness etc.); I'm now not so sure...and perhaps I might just stick with the more familiar ATs (I think the RS might be a little too stiff).

Does anyone know what differences were made (if any) to the straps in the 2014 models? (Looking at the pics, I can't see much of a difference)

If the straps are largely unchanged from the 2013 models, then that would suggest that Flow were happy with their original strap design; confident to reuse that design for another year.

On the other hand, if the straps have changed significantly in 2014; then that might confirm what the commenters have been saying; in which case that would be a clear signal to stick with the tradition strap for the 2013s.
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Old 02-08-2013, 01:56 AM   #387 (permalink)
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Scott

In the Flow 2014 thread found Here one of the videos states that they did change the angle on the tow strap

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You cannot (officially) swap the hybrid strap/toe cap for a traditional Flow powerstrap (i.e. Flow don't sell a conversion kit). That said, at least one person has managed to Frankenstein their set.
Just wait for the revised Frankenstein later this month
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:38 AM   #388 (permalink)
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Hi Scott,

You have hit a lot of the points.

The 2013 NX2 models were very well received...and wait until you feel the weight savings on the 2014's. It will blow your mind how light these active rear entry bindings have become. Also, the Fuse models will offer NASTY in a whole new flex category (Essentialy the M9 and M11 or getting upgraded to NASTY both with and without the toe cap).

As mentioned above, there will be an for 2014 to the toecap angle on the SE 'sthat wil raise the strap slightly to immediately accommmodate a wider range of boots with no manual adjustment.

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Old 02-08-2013, 10:28 PM   #389 (permalink)
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First of all, thanks so much for taking the time to answer our questions.

I recently purchased a set of Flow M9 bindings. I loosened the highback adjustment screws to move it back a little bit. However, after re-tightening the screws, they now all feel loose. I can actually slide the adjustment bracket back and forth even though the screws are tightened. Am I missing something simple here, or is it designed to tighten as you strap your boot in?
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Old 02-08-2013, 10:47 PM   #390 (permalink)
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anyone had problems with their highbacks coming off?

On my second day riding with the nx2 se one of my highbacks fell off by trying to pull it up. I am not a big fan of how the highbacks are screwed on. They seem really easy to pull off.
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