Flow Binding 2013 Q & A - Page 41 - Snowboarding Forum

Wiredsport · 02-19-2013, 05:56 PM

XL is designed for foot sizes down to US 10.5.

Kayeby · 02-20-2013, 03:47 PM

I've been looking at the women's line and as far as I can tell there are only two sizes - M and L. M is 2 sizes too large for my boot and I was wondering if Flow are coming out with a size S in the future?

Wiredsport · 02-20-2013, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kayeby

I've been looking at the women's line and as far as I can tell there are only two sizes - M and L. M is 2 sizes too large for my boot and I was wondering if Flow are coming out with a size S in the future?

Hi Kayeby,

It is still Medium and Large only for 2014 (and the youth models). I feel for you!

Sprockett · 02-20-2013, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiredsport

XL is designed for foot sizes down to US 10.5.

Well, yes. I can read the spec sheet as well. I guess I was hoping for some first hand experience.

Wiredsport · 02-20-2013, 04:10 PM

Sorry, I was unsure if you had seen that. First hand, you really don't want XL for size 9.

jtg · 02-27-2013, 12:44 PM

I just picked up a set of 2013 NX2-GTs and am quite frustrated. I was excited about these but after a day of riding have noticed several problems.

I'm using the Mediums in a Size 7.5/Mondo 25.5 boot.

1. The toe cap defeats the purpose of quick entry, at least with the current design of the toe cap on my boot (Salomon F4.0). I basically got tangled up going in/out of them every time. The toe strap, which just falls down, usually tries to roll under the boot. I see others have posted about this and suggested swapping and turning it upside down. Not ideal but I might give that a try.

2. The lock on the ratchets doesn't do anything. I see others have posted about this and it sounds like some units are worse than others?

3. Footbed on a medium seems way too short for a 7.5 boot. I can feel the corner of it digging into my foot across the ball during toeside turns. I guess this was my fault for not bringing my boot and trying them in the store. I went with the sizing chart and the word of the sales guy who said medium is the appropriate size. I also have an older pair of size 8 (K2 T1) and noticed that I can't even get the toe strap around them even on the last tooth.

4. This one is minor, but I seem to have a defect on one of my toe straps. The rubber part has a protrusion in the middle, like it's been stretched by something as wide as a pen. It looks like it is probably just cosmetic, but I expect better QC out of a $370 binding.

I might see if I can return them and get a large. But I think the ratchet lock issue is still going to be a problem. My shop doesn't take returns once it has been used, so it's probably going to take a bit of fighting.

jtg · 03-03-2013, 09:45 PM

So I exchanged mine for a large and had a much better experience. Overall I really like them, but there are a few issues. With the medium, it didn't fit well and wasn't possible to center on the board. The footbed didn't have nearly enough boot coverage. On the Large version, it's too big for an ideal fit. Basically if you have a size 8 foot, you're kinda screwed, but getting the Large is at least workable.

The ratchet mechanism is not the best quality. After a few hours of use, one of the toe strap ratchets no longer clicks and catches the tooth under moderate pressure (and I'm not tightening them to obscene levels).

As others have mentioned, when locked, a little more pressure can still result in it moving.

I had some issues with heel slip, and tweaked them throughout the day. The appeal is the quick entry, but in practice, I'm finding that doing them up that way is resulting in heel slippage. Sometimes it works better than others. It's nice when you kick your foot in and lock it and it feels just right, but so far my experience has been that more often than not, you'll still have to mess with it.

PalmerFreak · 03-10-2013, 07:46 AM

The NASTY system looks really cool but are there any issues with getting your rear boot positioned in the same spot each time you hop in? It would seem like your boot could be a little farther forward - or rearward - since there is so much more room upon entry.

Wiredsport · 03-10-2013, 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PalmerFreak

The NASTY system looks really cool but are there any issues with getting your rear boot positioned in the same spot each time you hop in? It would seem like your boot could be a little farther forward - or rearward - since there is so much more room upon entry.

That has not been an issue. The boot settles into place nicely due to the shaping of the baseplate. Even if you prefer to loosen all of the strap adjustments (there are a lot of ways that riders are using the NX2 models) there is a natural point when you will simply feel that you are "in".

john doe · 03-10-2013, 09:24 AM

Your foot will go into the exact same position every time. That is assuming your ratchets don't randomly tighten on you like me and others have had happen. Flow could easily fix this issue but they seem to be ignoring it.

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john doe Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,245	Your foot will go into the exact same position every time. That is assuming your ratchets don't randomly tighten on you like me and others have had happen. Flow could easily fix this issue but they seem to be ignoring it. __________________ 2011 Smokin Buck Ferton 155 2013 Flow NX2-SE 2013 Flow Hylite boa Burton Stagger pants/jacket Smith I/O

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02-20-2013, 03:47 PM	#402 (permalink)
Kayeby Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 30	I've been looking at the women's line and as far as I can tell there are only two sizes - M and L. M is 2 sizes too large for my boot and I was wondering if Flow are coming out with a size S in the future?

02-27-2013, 12:44 PM	#406 (permalink)
jtg -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: WA Posts: 116	I just picked up a set of 2013 NX2-GTs and am quite frustrated. I was excited about these but after a day of riding have noticed several problems. I'm using the Mediums in a Size 7.5/Mondo 25.5 boot. 1. The toe cap defeats the purpose of quick entry, at least with the current design of the toe cap on my boot (Salomon F4.0). I basically got tangled up going in/out of them every time. The toe strap, which just falls down, usually tries to roll under the boot. I see others have posted about this and suggested swapping and turning it upside down. Not ideal but I might give that a try. 2. The lock on the ratchets doesn't do anything. I see others have posted about this and it sounds like some units are worse than others? 3. Footbed on a medium seems way too short for a 7.5 boot. I can feel the corner of it digging into my foot across the ball during toeside turns. I guess this was my fault for not bringing my boot and trying them in the store. I went with the sizing chart and the word of the sales guy who said medium is the appropriate size. I also have an older pair of size 8 (K2 T1) and noticed that I can't even get the toe strap around them even on the last tooth. 4. This one is minor, but I seem to have a defect on one of my toe straps. The rubber part has a protrusion in the middle, like it's been stretched by something as wide as a pen. It looks like it is probably just cosmetic, but I expect better QC out of a $370 binding. I might see if I can return them and get a large. But I think the ratchet lock issue is still going to be a problem. My shop doesn't take returns once it has been used, so it's probably going to take a bit of fighting.

03-03-2013, 09:45 PM	#407 (permalink)
jtg -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: WA Posts: 116	So I exchanged mine for a large and had a much better experience. Overall I really like them, but there are a few issues. With the medium, it didn't fit well and wasn't possible to center on the board. The footbed didn't have nearly enough boot coverage. On the Large version, it's too big for an ideal fit. Basically if you have a size 8 foot, you're kinda screwed, but getting the Large is at least workable. The ratchet mechanism is not the best quality. After a few hours of use, one of the toe strap ratchets no longer clicks and catches the tooth under moderate pressure (and I'm not tightening them to obscene levels). As others have mentioned, when locked, a little more pressure can still result in it moving. I had some issues with heel slip, and tweaked them throughout the day. The appeal is the quick entry, but in practice, I'm finding that doing them up that way is resulting in heel slippage. Sometimes it works better than others. It's nice when you kick your foot in and lock it and it feels just right, but so far my experience has been that more often than not, you'll still have to mess with it.

03-10-2013, 07:46 AM	#408 (permalink)
PalmerFreak Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 102	The NASTY system looks really cool but are there any issues with getting your rear boot positioned in the same spot each time you hop in? It would seem like your boot could be a little farther forward - or rearward - since there is so much more room upon entry.