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Flow Binding 2013 Q & A

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#1 ·
Hi,

2013 will be our 18th year selling Flow, so this puts a big smile on my face. Minds will be blown this year. The new line is so full of tech and options that I thought a Q & A might be in order. This year almost everything in the binding line has been reworked from the ground up. The Flow team has been torture testing variation after variation of these new designs for two years and has finally put their stamp of approval on the final product. Fire away if you have any Q's. We will be sure to get you quick answers.









 
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#476 ·
I was wondering if you guy could tell me about the 2014 line. I have had flows since 2010 and I've heard for the SE bindings bigfooted guys get the short end of the stick in toe cap adjustability. I saw some say that those with size 12 or larger won't fit properly, and I don't want to pull triggers on something that isn't comfortable.
 
#482 ·
I have an old pair of K2 Cinch that I'm thinking of replacing with the NXT-SE. I can get them for about $180. Good deal?
That is so 2011. Kidding. The NXT was awesome but there have been some very worth upgrades in the newer Fuses and NX2's. If you can swing it...
 
#485 ·
Great binding ride wise. Issue I had is that part of the high back (plastic part) snapped off from the screws when I was flipping them up. Make sure to pull from the back lever when strapping in not the high back. Silicon and putting the screws back in fixed the prob but come across as flimsy to me. But as a said great flexible ride! Nx2-SE I'm referring to
 
#490 ·
Seems I got in on a similar santa deal from flow.
called them asking about the nx2 and fuse line.

I have k2 cinch ctx, there is really alot i like about the adjustability of the bindings but they are heavy and my arms get so sore from locking and unlocking the bindings all day.
it is a real chore.

searching for something easier I tried the 2013 gnu weird bindings, and after a week using them I am sending them back.
They are easier to snap in but

I have 2 issues with them

1. boot toe never seems to get in toe cap securely, no matter how i adjust. since toecap is at a fixed height, i can only move forward or back

2. trying to get them on or off on an slope, is a chore, since the latch goes 90 to the ground and prevents them from fully opening


I called flow asking for info on two models
the fuse-se and the nx2-se i was interested in each because of the canted footbeds.
(a must for me as I have bad knees)
and the hybrid toe cap, which seems to solve the issue i had with the Gnu's



I explained my issues with their competitions bindings one by one, to see if they were different. I also asked if there was any 2013 models since my budget is limited, they could not find any in stock
Since they could not they hooked me up for xmas with a deal of all deals on an nx2-se.
I am so stoked
I am hopefull that i will finally find an easy in easy out binding.

Even if they don't work out I will never bad mouth flow as they are a real stand up company who stands behind their product and willing to go the extra mile to help some one out
:)
 
#493 ·
When I called it was not my intent to find a deal. I was just trying.to.justify spending a lot more.money. mind you I am very chatty so I guess the csr. Was feeling the xmas spirit abd hooked me up. I was trying to find a 2013 model because of price. And it looks like I won the lottery of csr's. Worth a shot though
 
#497 ·
If anyone has a higher end binding from another manufacturer that they haven't abused much, and they want to try Flows, I'd consider trades for my 2013 NX2-GTs (Medium). PM me what you have if interested. I probably put 15 days on them. I do have the updated ladders from Flow as well, to fix the issue discussed earlier in the thread with the front straps tightening when your foot is out.
 
#503 ·
When you have the buckle in the lock position is should not move. People are accidentally kicking the front toe strap while skating. When they kick it, the buckle tightens. You don't notice it until you go to strap in the next run.

Mine will do this but I skate 99.9 percent with my foot behind the board. I have yet to accidentally tighten the buckle.
 
#504 ·
I got Flow Talon 2013/14 boots size 10.5 and NX2-AT size L

The back of the binding is very narrow (where the NASTY joints are) When coming in I cant go straightly from back, have to step in from top.

It actually damages the Flow Talon shoes - there are rubbed spots from the outside of the shoes 0.5 cm in diameter where the shoes touches the joints. the black textile is rubbed you can see white inner part.

Do I have set the bindings bad, as it does not seems to or its just a bad boots/binding combo.

To be honest so far the damage is just visual and it seems to not get any worse. But its strange to see this issue from top products from same company
 
#505 ·
Not sure why your boot does it cuz I though that flow boots should have no issues with the bindings:dunno: I do have that issue with mine and I have a 32 Focus boa boots sz.10 I'm used to slipping in from the top but once in a while I'd step in from the back and it gets stuck, it is annoying but I just laugh when it happens. not really have any damage on my boot but scuff marks and its no big deal. I won't trade my bindings for anything:thumbsup:
 
#516 ·
Hi,

This likely can be adjusted with setup.

A bit of history first. Before NASTY (active strap technology - which raises the strap slightly on your NX2's) all Flow bindings functioned like what you are describing. By that I mean that when you initially step/kick in, the heel of your boot would hang over the reclined highback (typically by 1-2 inches). That was normal and it was part of the design. From there the process was to reach down, grab the highback, and at the same time weight your heel and lift the highback. That motion would shoehorn your foot into place for a great fit.

So, how does NASTY change that? That depends on setup. If the strap is adjusted very tight, the small amount of strap lift that NASTY gives might not be enough to allow a full step/kick in (especially with size 14 boots). In that case you may still use a bit of the old technique. The other way to go would be to initially set the strap a bit looser (knowing that NASTY will tighten it down a bit upon highback closure). A third option is to start with the ratchets very loose and then take a few cranks on the ratchets after you unload the lift.

Stoked!
 
#517 ·
Well I've been having issues with my 2012 NX2 SE's and I found out what the problem is. Look where the white circles are in these pics.






These are cam levers that ride on a dimple stamped into both sides of the steel ratchet housing.
When the plastic locking tab on the ratchet is pushed down these cams get held down by those dimples keeping the locking tab down and locked into place.

What happens with use is these plastic tabs wear out. Mine are gone, not allowing the tab to stay down and allowing the ratchet to tighten when my boot is not in the binding. Hence making it impossible to kick in without loosening the strap IE: loosening it prior to kicking in or when I release the high back, either way totally defeating the purpose of Flows.

Any solutions??? I'm going to contact Flow again, and hopefully WiredSport has a contact there as well.

I have gotten a replacement ratchet but it is the same design with me experiencing the same issues :angry:
 
#522 ·
Highback

Guys, a bit of a stupid quesiton:
Do you keep your rear highback open when on the lift? Or do you lock it? Just seems to me that an open highback will be catching on the snow, lift itself, skiers and so on, which can result in breaking it. How are you rocking those flows of yours on the lifts?
 
#523 ·
Always open. Any dragging in the snow it does is unnoticeable and I don't see how the highback could ever get caught on the lift. I never have to worry about catching on something (skier, lift line poles, ect) since I always push with my foot to the heel side.
 
#524 ·
Thanks JD, but what about all of us that are skating the usual "foot in front of the board" way? I can just see the top part of the highback getting snapped on some rented ski poles that were just stuck into the icy floor of the ski lift approach line with a force of a drunken yeti. Mind you, it's Europe we are talking about. Perhaps it's easier to just pop it open once on the lift, so am still curious to hear other flowing shredders out there.
 
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