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Old 02-05-2012, 05:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I currently have a set of ride deltas bolted to a ride machete board. This is also the fault of my 32 lashed boots (which I will also be replacing) which are 1 season + 2 weeks holiday old having softened a lot, but I find the combo doesn't give me a very firm feel, in fact far from it. Although I do like the lower highback feel on the deltas, they also seem quite flexy and the flat design doesn't wrap around the boot too well.

So I'm looking for a mid flex binding, more support than the deltas but ultimately used for all mountain (bear in mind i'll keep my deltas for a jib board probably), so mainly used for off piste, booters and carving on piste. I'm only 10 and a half stone though so nothing super stiff.

Also what are your opinions on the angled wedges? I run a wide stance at 5'11 my ideal atm is one hole set back from the widest (not sure on the actual measurement) so I don't know if I need these to maintain this, however I don't know if its gimic or useful as i'm so used to them I cant remember how normal bindings feel!

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Old 02-05-2012, 07:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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canted footbeds are pretty nice, definitely not a gimmick.

if you like Ride gear, go for the capo's, if not, k2 formula or burton cartels
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canted footbeds are pretty nice, definitely not a gimmick.

if you like Ride gear, go for the capo's, if not, k2 formula or burton cartels
I like my board, not too certain on the bindings though. Burton cartels were on my list, would i be right in saying similar to missions but a little lower in the high back and more refined (i have ridden missions before and they were quite solid of course lifetime warranty is also good!). I've also been looking at the rome 390 bos's and rome targa's...

not sure on the stiffness in comparison of all of these though.
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cartels are a little softer, side to side, than targas, but close to the same heel-toe.

better option than the missions, with the zero lean highback and autocant footbeds.
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The cartels are little stiffer then the missions. They also have a little more padding. Based on what you want to do, the cartels would be better then missions. (I own both btw).
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Yea I've ridden the missions, they were okay, more of a benchmark than ones I actually wanted.... I think my decision is going to come down to cartels, romes or maybe union (ive been reccomended any opinions?)

opinions and comparisons on these would be appreciated

edit: Do the cartels even come in a cantered in the 4 bolt version?

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Yea I've ridden the missions, they were okay, more of a benchmark than ones I actually wanted.... I think my decision is going to come down to cartels, romes or maybe union (ive been reccomended any opinions?)

opinions and comparisons on these would be appreciated

edit: Do the cartels even come in a cantered in the 4 bolt version?
Im guessing you mean canted? If so, yes, both est and 4 bolt have 'autocant' footbeds. 'Autocant' is firmer foam on the outside and softer on the inside. They dont have a predefined cant angle like most companies do. Their theory is that w/ different densities of foam, it will adjust based on what the rider needs. Personally, i dont know how much of a diff it makes. I felt the autocant footbed...and i couldn't really tell the firmness difference all that much.
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Im guessing you mean canted? If so, yes, both est and 4 bolt have 'autocant' footbeds. 'Autocant' is firmer foam on the outside and softer on the inside. They dont have a predefined cant angle like most companies do. Their theory is that w/ different densities of foam, it will adjust based on what the rider needs. Personally, i dont know how much of a diff it makes. I felt the autocant footbed...and i couldn't really tell the firmness difference all that much.
Haha yes sorry that was what I meant.

Ah I see, nice idea have you/anyone else tested them vs bindings with flat and pre-set foobeads? I do like the idea of the rome changeable angle so I can play about with what suits me... but then again if the whole auto thing works that would be the ultimate. Do union do a canted base of any sort? I looked through their line, seem to be very solid bindings and a lot of tech in there, just couldn't find a lot about that aspect.

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