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Old 02-09-2012, 09:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I just bought a pair of 2012 burton cartels and previously owned a pair of customs from about 3 or 4 years ago. The ratchet straps seem to be about the same where if i tighten them down really tight they start to slip on the plastic strap, and doesn't make it easy to get much tighter. Has anyone else had this problem with burton bindings? also has anyone switched over from burton bindings to another company where this doesn't happen as much with the ratchets? granted I like my straps as tight as possible but i don't think that's much different from anyone else? any suggestions would help thanks.
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if they are already really tight, why do you want them tighter?

there's nothing wrong with your bindings, you're doing it wrong (most likely).

Inspect the small springs on the rachets very carefully. If they seem intact and sitting in their proper places, the above statement is true. I have broken one of these springs on a fairly new pair of bindings, which does cause what you are describing. It can be hard to see.
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no im not doing it wrong, im simply asking if people have had this problem when they try to tighten their straps really tight and if anyone has switched to another brand that seems to be an improvement in this area
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I'll probably get flamed for this but i actually dislike Burton's ratchets. Yeah they may be smooth but they always, always, always loosen up. I've owned a pair of cartels where the toe strap came completely loose by the end of a run and the ankle strap would loosen too. A friend of mine who owned missions. Same issue.

I have since moved on to Union bindings and find them better overall. Some have issues with the toe strap not fitting there boot correctly but i havent ran into this issue(try adjusting them). Ratchets arent as smooth on release but they stay tight and the response and board feel is leaps beyond Burtons bindings.
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no im not doing it wrong, im simply asking if people have had this problem when they try to tighten their straps really tight and if anyone has switched to another brand that seems to be an improvement in this area
I always hesitate to help a first time poster, probably should stick to my guns. Good Luck.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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All of my burton bindings do that if I crank them down extraordinarily tight... really a non-issue for me.

Compared to K2, Ride and Rome, Burton's ratchets are the best i've tried.
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I had this problem too, I even started a thread on it... then I took the advice the people on the forum gave me, that i dont need to tighten them that much, and now I am happy with the bindings I have
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no im not doing it wrong, im simply asking if people have had this problem when they try to tighten their straps really tight and if anyone has switched to another brand that seems to be an improvement in this area
You are doing it wrong if you are trying to crank down the ratchets more when they are already tight. This is my first year with Burton anything (12 Malavitas, admitted ex-hater) and I've found them to be just fine. If you tighten them down when they are already tight, the ratchet lifts, which is what allows them to tighten down on another tooth, and the lack of room for them to further crank means they will release slightly. My Flux bindings do this too if I just carelessly crank them. Once they are nearly tight, crank the ratchets to get one tooth at a time. All bindings work like this because all bindings have the same ratchet and ladder design in principle.

The only problem I've had all season was when I got the ladders caked with wet snow but that would inhibit any ratchet from catching the ladder teeth.
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good explanation thanks (unlike that other dbag...)

I realize they are tight but just feels to react better when they are 'super tight' so just seeing if other brands were like this or not, i can deal with it, thanks cheese
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YOu might have the wring size if you are having issues. Go smaller, then you can tighten them more.

the butthurt in this thread is funny.

Union ratchets are notorious for sucking...they have become way better though this year and next. PLus, I hate the extra button to push for release, Burton are so perfect it is hard to move away from. Burton has these ratchets Patented I believe.
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