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sldrose 02-12-2012 12:43 AM

K2 Cinch CTX 2012 cable problem & questions?
 
Hi,

I have just bought the K2 Cinch CTX 2012 online.

I know these bindings have been discussed in other posts, but i want to ask anyone who rides them some questions.

1. Every second run, the Cable slips out of the channel and i have to remove my gloves and fit them back into the channel. this is dangerous as i think the high back is locked, but my foot lifts out.
Has anyone else experienced this? can it be fixed?
looking for options for fixing as i bought these online so cant readily return them.

2. The highback lean looks like it is all the way back, but I prefer even less lean. they still feel a bit too far forward for my liking. The instructions are difficult to follow, is there any way to improve/reduce the lean?

3. What are your tips and tricks for getting into these bindings?
I still find myself struggling to balance whilst trying to get my back foot in.
i've found i can get in a bit easier if im toeside and kneel down, but if there is a better way or some tricks to get in i'd appreciate it.

thanks

sldrose 02-17-2012 12:30 PM

no one had an issue with the cable slipping out of the channel?

KIRKRIDER 02-17-2012 01:00 PM

No...I had the same bindings since last season. Not a problem. A picture would help understand the problem? Sounds like the binding is not strapped right and you have less tension on the cable.
If the forward lean is at zero already I don't think there is a way to reduce it. No tricks, other than buying a low profile boot (Burton Driver X in my case) and setting the bindings correctly. I bend on my knees on a edge and pull the back lever...done. They work like a charm for me.

sldrose 02-17-2012 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER (Post 484570)
No...I had the same bindings since last season. Not a problem. A picture would help understand the problem? Sounds like the binding is not strapped right and you have less tension on the cable.
If the forward lean is at zero already I don't think there is a way to reduce it. No tricks, other than buying a low profile boot (Burton Driver X in my case) and setting the bindings correctly. I bend on my knees on a edge and pull the back lever...done. They work like a charm for me.

Thanks kirkrider,

yes the forward lean is already at zero, and i've increased the tension on the cable by using the allen key adjuster.
i've included a picture of where the cable slips out of the channel.

Yes, ive tried that trick to get in whilst kneeling, it works well (when the cable is working :dunno:)

I've tried contacting K2 and they say that this is the first they've heard of this problem.
They want me to go through the dealer which is hard cause I bought the binding online in the US.
I'm in Calgary.

(FYI - I tried to get the binding through my local shops, but no K2 dealer in Calgary had stock and I was told that they couldn't get stock from K2 either)

cheers

KIRKRIDER 02-17-2012 05:06 PM

I had a similar problem when I aligned the highback with the board, as it should be. The cable was not symmetric anymore and would pop out of the guide. Reduce the angle of the highback respect to the edge of the board until the cable stays put.

Another possibility is that the right side guide in your pic moved a bit, check that the screw is tightened and not moving. I see your right side cable attachment a bit high, there is a screw at the base of the ankle strap, make sure it is tight enough so that the cable attachment cannot rotate too much and go out of place.

Tighten the screws regulating the angle of the highback ( left and right, under the ankle straps attachments) make sure they are not loose letting the binding unaligned. They do loosen up.

ALSO:
There two small "bumps" for lack of a better term inside that piece that keep your cable aligned, forcing the cable to stay inside. Make sure that the cable is placed correctly in the first place. I am trying to replicate your issue on my binding...unsuccessfully.

Hope this helps!

hikeswithdogs 02-17-2012 05:11 PM

I've been riding these for about a season and a half and have it happen 1 time, haven't adjusted a thing took them out of the box , mounted and rode.

Do you kick you highback forward when you skate?

sldrose 02-18-2012 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KIRKRIDER (Post 484701)
I had a similar problem when I aligned the highback with the board, as it should be. The cable was not symmetric anymore and would pop out of the guide. Reduce the angle of the highback respect to the edge of the board until the cable stays put.

Another possibility is that the right side guide in your pic moved a bit, check that the screw is tightened and not moving. I see your right side cable attachment a bit high, there is a screw at the base of the ankle strap, make sure it is tight enough so that the cable attachment cannot rotate too much and go out of place.

Tighten the screws regulating the angle of the highback ( left and right, under the ankle straps attachments) make sure they are not loose letting the binding unaligned. They do loosen up.

ALSO:
There two small "bumps" for lack of a better term inside that piece that keep your cable aligned, forcing the cable to stay inside. Make sure that the cable is placed correctly in the first place. I am trying to replicate your issue on my binding...unsuccessfully.

Hope this helps!

Thanks Kirkrider, ive tightened everything up and will try to get out this weekend and test it again.
i ride a pretty square stance, so I didnt need to realign the highback with the heel edge of the board. It's still at its factory setting.

the two small bumps are also still in the channel, and are not showing any signs that they are worn.

It's odd because at home I can't get it to pop out as regular as when i'm on the hill.

i'll let you know how it goes.

thanks for your help

sldrose 02-18-2012 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hikeswithdogs (Post 484704)
I've been riding these for about a season and a half and have it happen 1 time, haven't adjusted a thing took them out of the box , mounted and rode.

Do you kick you highback forward when you skate?

hi hikeswithdogs, i do lift the highback forward when i skate, just with my hand, not kicking, I dont lock the highback up though.
Then I push the highback backdown to get my foot in.

Now that you mention it, the cable slipping does happen more when i have to skate and after ive manually lifted and lowered the highback. (without using the rubber loop)
i find that things are smoother when i use the rubber loop to lift the highback rather than moving the highback into place directly.

what are your thoughts?

hikeswithdogs 02-18-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by sldrose (Post 484887)
hi hikeswithdogs, i do lift the highback forward when i skate, just with my hand, not kicking, I dont lock the highback up though.
Then I push the highback backdown to get my foot in.

Now that you mention it, the cable slipping does happen more when i have to skate and after ive manually lifted and lowered the highback. (without using the rubber loop)
i find that things are smoother when i use the rubber loop to lift the highback rather than moving the highback into place directly.

what are your thoughts?

I'm not sure exactly but I just know that a buddy of mine(with the same EXACT CTX year and model as me) had a major issue with the cable but he always kicked the kicked his high-back forward before he started skating, I've always just skated with my foot in front of my board so it's never been an issue for me.

not sure, go ahead and give it a shot and let us know if it made a difference. Good luck

BTW....I moved my Autoevers to my splitboard and put my Cinch's back on my resort board and I'm actually looking forward to having them back, hate to admit it but dam they are uber convenient.

KIRKRIDER 02-18-2012 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sldrose (Post 484884)
Thanks Kirkrider, ive tightened everything up and will try to get out this weekend and test it again.
i ride a pretty square stance, so I didnt need to realign the highback with the heel edge of the board. It's still at its factory setting.

the two small bumps are also still in the channel, and are not showing any signs that they are worn.

It's odd because at home I can't get it to pop out as regular as when i'm on the hill.

i'll let you know how it goes.

thanks for your help

Might be a foot position problem then. What angles you ride with? Make sure your heel is touching the base and you don't have too much snow under your boot. It happened to me a couple of times. Especially after skating around on a pow day.
Enjoy!


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