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post #11 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-20-2012, 09:50 AM
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I pretty happy with my Cartels, I don't think you can go wrong with them.
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I.Love.My.Cartels. Simply one of the best bindings I have ever ridden. IMO they are so versatile they can handle just about anything I can throw at em.

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My only complaint with the Cartels is that sometimes the cap strap slips on hard landings. Otherwise it's a solid binding.
^ This would be my only complaint with them as well as this happens to me. Even still though it happens few and far between huge landings/biffs that it doesn't become a nuisance.


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i've ridden the forces and cartels for the lasst seven years. i broke the base plate on the cartels last week so i've been riding the missions. for me the missions are the most comfortable. the forces and cartels are stiffer. i wish these missions had the reflex.

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Okaay then...I expected tons of support on the Union side, but I guess I'll go with either the Cartels or the Missions; whichever I can get for cheaper!

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i've ridden the forces and cartels for the lasst seven years. i broke the base plate on the cartels last week so i've been riding the missions. for me the missions are the most comfortable. the forces and cartels are stiffer. i wish these missions had the reflex.
cartels and missions have the same baseplate blend

I have the late release mission re:flex bindings. I really like them. The asym react ankle strap is pimp! What I don't like... the ratchets aren't nearly as solid as any pair of unions that I have owned(been riding union since 08)... and I also like unions cap strap more that the getta-grip one on my missions(in the minority here, methinks). I have loved my contact pros, forces, and missions...it just comes down to which you prefer... and you won't know without trying them all out.
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Also, EST vs non-EST? I'm definitely leaning towards not, because I want to use them in the future, but just curious.

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Also, EST vs non-EST? I'm definitely leaning towards not, because I want to use them in the future, but just curious.
You cant put Burton EST bindings on any board but a Burton channel board.
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I own older Missions and they were a mix and match of various past season Cartels... It's a different story this season though. They've been upgraded this year to be pretty much in line with the current season Cartel, especially the restricted version. Either will be a nice choice.

The thing about Union Forces... they haven't been changed at all for many seasons now. Other companies are constantly trickling down tech to their bindings that are at a similar pricepoint. You could say "don't mess with what isn't broke", but hell, there's ALWAYS room for improvement without changing the basic design of a binding.
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cartels and missions have the same baseplate blend
wrong. re-flex and non re-flex base plates are nothing alike.

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wrong. re-flex and non re-flex base plates are nothing alike.
He did mention that he has the Restricted Re:flex Missions.
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