Cartels, Missions, or Forces? - Snowboarding Forum

Matt578 · 03-19-2012, 07:07 PM

I've narrowed my binding search down to Burton Cartels, Missions, and Union Forces. I ride mostly everything, with a focus on park and trees. I'm 5' 7'', 140 lbs, and size 11 boot if that matters. My board is a Burton Sherlock; so I'm looking for mid-flex. Which should I get?

Thanks!

cocolulu · 03-20-2012, 02:16 AM

I don't know how they feel on foot, but at least looking at them, the Cartels look like some of the highest quality and most well thought out bindings I've seen.

2hipp4u · 03-20-2012, 02:35 AM

I pretty happy with my Cartels, I don't think you can go wrong with them.

Khao · 03-20-2012, 02:40 AM

Cartels are renowned for a reason. Missions are not too bad either but you can definitely feel a difference in quality.

Extremo · 03-20-2012, 05:44 AM

I'd say the Cartel's are more similar in flex and response to the Union Atlas. It really comes down to riding style. The force will have a little more of a mid flex. I've always enjoyed the Force on my park board. The Cartels felt a little more bulky. But it is all personal preference. It sucks that you can't try before you buy.

dreampow · 03-20-2012, 06:20 AM

I am very happy with my cartels too

, can't go wrong with them good all round binding.

Clarion · 03-20-2012, 07:46 AM

My only complaint with the Cartels is that sometimes the cap strap slips on hard landings. Otherwise it's a solid binding.

mmont16 · 03-20-2012, 09:10 AM

Can anyone explain the difference between the Burton Cartel and the Cartel EST? Or any EST for that matter?

Rufus · 03-20-2012, 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmont16

Can anyone explain the difference between the Burton Cartel and the Cartel EST? Or any EST for that matter?

EST bindings are made to fit Burton ICS boards with the channel.

OP, I have this year's Cartels and Missions. I like them both, the Missions are great in the park while the Cartels are a little better as an all around binding. Can't go wrong with either.

East§ide · 03-20-2012, 09:44 AM

i have agent orange cartels, warhol missions, and 2012 union forces...the cartels are 2009's and the blow the forces out of the water...better toe cap, better high back, and a really solid build. they also have less abuse and scratches over 3 years than the forces over 15 days

03-19-2012, 07:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Matt578 Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 101	Cartels, Missions, or Forces? I've narrowed my binding search down to Burton Cartels, Missions, and Union Forces. I ride mostly everything, with a focus on park and trees. I'm 5' 7'', 140 lbs, and size 11 boot if that matters. My board is a Burton Sherlock; so I'm looking for mid-flex. Which should I get? Thanks! __________________ Wants to go out West

03-20-2012, 02:35 AM	#3 (permalink)
2hipp4u -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Flatrock Posts: 231	I pretty happy with my Cartels, I don't think you can go wrong with them. __________________ GBR

03-20-2012, 02:40 AM	#4 (permalink)
Khao Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Gold Coast, Australia. Posts: 33	Cartels are renowned for a reason. Missions are not too bad either but you can definitely feel a difference in quality. __________________ Representing down under.

03-20-2012, 06:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
dreampow Veteran Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Kyoto Japan Posts: 1,056	I am very happy with my cartels too, can't go wrong with them good all round binding.

03-20-2012, 09:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
East§ide Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 807 Blog Entries: 1	i have agent orange cartels, warhol missions, and 2012 union forces...the cartels are 2009's and the blow the forces out of the water...better toe cap, better high back, and a really solid build. they also have less abuse and scratches over 3 years than the forces over 15 days __________________ Never Summer Evo 153/Restricted ReFlex Cartel Gnu Danny Kass 156 BTX

03-20-2012, 02:16 AM	#2 (permalink)
cocolulu Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 203	I don't know how they feel on foot, but at least looking at them, the Cartels look like some of the highest quality and most well thought out bindings I've seen.

03-20-2012, 05:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Extremo -LIFETIME MEMBER- Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: NH Posts: 3,115	I'd say the Cartel's are more similar in flex and response to the Union Atlas. It really comes down to riding style. The force will have a little more of a mid flex. I've always enjoyed the Force on my park board. The Cartels felt a little more bulky. But it is all personal preference. It sucks that you can't try before you buy.

03-20-2012, 07:46 AM	#7 (permalink)
Clarion Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 125	My only complaint with the Cartels is that sometimes the cap strap slips on hard landings. Otherwise it's a solid binding.

03-20-2012, 09:10 AM	#8 (permalink)
mmont16 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 20	Can anyone explain the difference between the Burton Cartel and the Cartel EST? Or any EST for that matter?

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