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the 2013 Burton Genesis ReFlex Bindings...

Without having a chance to ride them yet, here are some things I noticed:
- These bindings are light! They feel lighter than my reflex malavitas.
- the highbacks are soft flexing... both parts seem to be quite flexible.
- they changed the discs a little so the angles are marked on the disc and not the baseplate anymore.
- the react ankle strap (like on the diode and old c60) is very comfortable
- the gettagrip toe strap is like on the diode, where the inner material appears to be some kind of foam and not rubber like the usual ones
- no autocant
- the b3 gel in the heel is much smaller than i've ever seen.
- the baseplate mold/shape/design is different than the 2012 cartel and malavita reflex

Here are some pics... I'll have a chance to ride them in the next few days...





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I have heard great things about these. I'm really looking forward to giving them a try. I haven't seen white.... Thought it only came in tourquois or black
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those look sick! i'm surprised at how light bindings keep getting!

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ya those bindings are sick. would deff switch my cartels for those. can u tell me what the mesh is on the highback? i was told what it was when looking at bindings but i forgot.
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Loved these bindings the second I strapped into them... then I started actually riding... I WANT THESE AS MY NEXT PAIR BADLY!!!


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what makes them better than say, the cartels or malavitas?

I love the ratchets on the Raiden bindings (like butter, smoother than Burton) but did like the malavitas I had. I shouldn't have sold them.
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After a few hours of riding them, here's my thoughts:
- the ankle strap is very comfortable, just like the malavitas, but feel more locked in.... which i think is a good feeling. I could never tolerate the cartel ones for longer than an hour. On a side note, the cartel ankle strap has changed for 2013, like a smaller react strap.
- the toe strap holds just as good, if not better than the regular rubber gettagrips. I think removing the rubber strip in the middle cutout makes a difference, and I may cut the rubber strip out of my other gettagrip bindings, which could move if not ratcheted tight, despite being grippier than the foam on the genesis/diode.
- the new highback WORKS... on my 2011 malavitas I prefer them with zero adjustment, my 2012 cobrasharks at f2 i think, and these at f3... the "suspension" piece and back piece are both soft and with my settings I could feel the highback even in a relaxed stance... which I liked. During heelside turns the response was there, and felt great even through bumps keeping the heelside edge... ZERO CALF BITE!!!!! the highback is secure and comfortable.
- the baseplate flexes less than my reflex malavitas... again I like this.

My only concern with these bindings is the flimsy feeling of the highbacks, but everything else I LOVE... zero pressure points with a locked in feeling that was extremely comfortable.
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what makes them better than say, the cartels or malavitas?

I love the ratchets on the Raiden bindings (like butter, smoother than Burton) but did like the malavitas I had. I shouldn't have sold them.
The Genesis first of all is lighter than both the cartels and malavitas. The ankle strap is quite different from any of their other straps. It's very thin and completely wraps your ankle when locked in. It's a toss up for me between these straps and Burton's Asym straps. Although the Genesis ankle straps are more comfortable.

That's the major thing about these... it is superbly comfortable. It's like you don't have anything on your feet, yet you get all the support like you do. The highbacks seem flimsy, but Hoon said in his review that he accidentally stepped right on the highback and was convinced he broke something. Nothing broke, not even that Hammock thing.

The hammock contraption on the highback hugs the back of your boot. So you feel the support there even when you aren't flexing into the highback. However, the highback doesn't engage until you lean into it.

It's a pretty flexy binding though so it's not going to be for the person looking for that aggressively responsive binding. I place it as an all-mountain freestyle binding with a bias towards freestyle.


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Thanks for the review, I might have to check these out for next season.
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cant wait for mine
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