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Burton Cartel vs Malavita for Attack Banaa

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I've just got myself a new board - 153 cm Lib Tech Attack Banana and can't decide on the bindings for it. I've done a lot of research on the net, mainly on this forum and seems that a lot of people are recommending Burton Cartels for this particular board, but when I went to my local shop the guy there said the Malavita model would suit my needs better. I am an intermediate rider, 5.75 feet tall and 159 lbs, if it matters. I wanted to get an all-mountain board that would perform well on groomers and ice, but that would also give me a lot of fun in the meantime. I am not spending time in the park but hopefully it will change soon

Any help on choosing the right bindings would be much appreciated. Of course I will consider any bindings, not just the two Burton models mentioned above. Thanks for you help!

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Sebastian,

Did you end up choosing a binding? If so, what did you get and have you tried it out? I have the exact same dilemma. Currently, I plan to go with the '13 Cartel Re:Flex. They've improved the high back and made it more responsive over the '12. I've been reading about the Rome 390, Union Force and Union Contact. I'm really looking for dampening and cushioning. I read that the Burtons are excellent on that. The Good Ride has reviews of all of these bindings. I compared all of the How It Rides tables on them. I currently have '08 Mission that I like, but I want to take things to the next level. I think the Cartel will do that for all mountain without being too soft.

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Im having the same problem looking at bindings for my neversummer revolver. The cartel was the all mountain binding in the past but this years model has a noticably softer highback than the malavita. Which is causing people to go over to the malavitas for the stiffer highback.

Im getting my bindings tomorrow and still havent made up my mind
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Sebastian,

Did you end up choosing a binding? If so, what did you get and have you tried it out? I have the exact same dilemma. Currently, I plan to go with the '13 Cartel Re:Flex. They've improved the high back and made it more responsive over the '12. I've been reading about the Rome 390, Union Force and Union Contact. I'm really looking for dampening and cushioning. I read that the Burtons are excellent on that. The Good Ride has reviews of all of these bindings. I compared all of the How It Rides tables on them. I currently have '08 Mission that I like, but I want to take things to the next level. I think the Cartel will do that for all mountain without being too soft.

David
No! Burton has made the high back on the 13 Cartels significantly less responsive. Your call whether that is an improvement - sure as hell would not be for me, but it depends on your riding style...

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Im having the same problem looking at bindings for my neversummer revolver. The cartel was the all mountain binding in the past but this years model has a noticably softer highback than the malavita. Which is causing people to go over to the malavitas for the stiffer highback.

Im getting my bindings tomorrow and still havent made up my mind
Shitty move by burton - weird. But what the hell do I know?
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Thanks for the input. I was going on what I had read and the conclusions I made from them. Good to know. Now I'm totally confused. I may pick up a '12 Cartel Re:Flex then. but I also read that some folks had issues with that high back due to the zero lean, which was new a year or so before.

@tygrannas: Let us know what binding you pick up...
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@tygrannas: Let us know what binding you pick up...
Will do, Im leaning towards the malavitas at the moment. since my freeride board is a k2 slayblade with burton C60s and ive been doing park with that board. I figure out of those 2 i cant get to stiff of a binding but I can get a binding that is too soft
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I ended up getting the cartels, they didnt feel as soft as everyone is making them out to be and I saved $30. I cant wait to try them out, waiting for snow is even more depresing now that I have a whole new setup of board/bindings and a pair of boots i got warrentied.

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I ended up ordering the '13 Cartel Re:Flex Restricted. I went for them due to the rave reviews of the asym strap. I took a hard look at Malavitas but could not justify the extra cost. I'm sure I'll be happy with the Cartels seeing as I'm moving from a set of 07/08 Missions. Just wanted some newer tech / flex to work with my Attack Banana. I also figure that the '13s will have any bugs sorted out of the reflex system. Had a hard time going with the corporate giant... but at least they use reground material to make the Cartel (so they say) and my board is made in the US.

Watch... the '14s will have "The Hinge"... (which apparently Burton tired with the reflex system but generated too much flex... meaning... we can't undercut our proprietary EST system!) but I plan on living with these for five years.
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It's true that the Cartel back has been softened for this year, so you're not happy with that, then get this year's Mission Restricted. It has the same highback from last year's Cartel with an upgraded ankle strap like this year's Cartel. According to Burton's website the Mission is softer than the Cartel, but definitely felt stiffer when I played with it in the store.

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