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Old 09-20-2012, 01:55 PM   #11 (permalink)
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any reason youre so set on unions? a lot of other companys would be better in my opinion.
ie. some rome 390 bosses? the raiden line?
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:20 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In answer to both your queries, it's probably good to emphasise that I really like my current setup. I really enjoy riding it and approaching my next purchase from wanting to build on this; rather than thinking anything is 'wrong'.

Hence I'm looking at more Union bindings and another Endeavor board!

I just want more manoeuvrability and a little more 'bite', which more experienced friends assure me I'll find in a shorter, cambered board.

I'd like two to take away with me and am definitely ordering this 153cm.. Just need to decide which bindings for powder!
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hmm.. This brief piece advocates super-light, stiff, high-back bindings for powder..

Powder Snowboard Bindings | Powder Snowboard

The Union SL would fit the bill perfectly here.. And I've got a dude trying to sell me a pair from last season, used once, right now..

So 159cm RC board with Union SL.. Looking like it makes sense on paper?
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:40 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You will out bend the hell out of a 153.

I say a Live Reverse 159 if you still want Endeavor or a YES Greats 160 with something other than Union. You already have Forces. Branch out. Try some NX2-AT's, Formulas, Rodeo's, DMCC Lights, Phantoms, or Cartels.
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Old 09-20-2012, 02:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Out-bend? You're saying I'm too heavy for a 153?

Hmm.. My assumption until a couple of months ago was that I was too big for sub-159, but quite a few guys - some of whom weigh similar - are assuring me I can do it; and that it's a good move..

What do you think?

And I already have RC; and a massive (161cm) stiff cambered board..

Something small and cambered really is appealing.
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I'll say it again. I think the lengths of the boards are good for what you want. a shorter camber board for quicker spins of jumps and better grip through ice. a longer reverse camber (rocker) board for float and stability in powder. As for the bindings, either use your forces on the 159 and get contact pro for the 153 or put the forces on the 153 and get the SLs on the 159. Or just getting another pair of forces wouldn't be a bad option either as they are great all around bindings and you can do anything on them unless you're really technical or something and are going to be pushing the limits. I've owned a couple pairs of unions and they're excellent bindings. The only downfalls to them are as of now they don't have canting options for the footbeds and the toe strap doesn't fit well with all kinds of boots. If you don't mind the regular footbeds and if the toe strap fits your boots, I say stick with Union. If you can't make up your mind, you could also try demoing a pair early in the season to see which ones you like better.
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:19 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Thanks for your reply Rookie. It's good to hear someone else click with my rationale! I feel like a 153cm camber really will complete my collection and be a great contrast.

As I mentioned, board no.3 is a 161cm stiff camber I managed to find on eBay in mint cond. for 50! I haven't had the chance to use it much yet, but anticipate it being good for piste-charging..

I love the Force, so keeping it on my new smaller camber board which will see a lot of use at park night makes sense..

And reading around, stiff, light and responsive bindings seem to be favoured for powder.. Well that would be the SL to a 'T', I think!

Plus, if anything moving to stiffer, more responsive equipment would favour both me starting to progress more; and being a heavy, powerful rider.

That makes enough sense to me to pick both those items up next week anyway - and I'll have two bindings/three boards to rotate and learn from in the Alps in December!
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Hmm.. Someone'e just pointed out board width..

I wear a UK size 12 (US 13) boot. That works fine with my 159cm (I have a fairly standard 15 degree tilt and set my heels back)..

Do you guys think a 153cm would be doable?
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Old 09-20-2012, 04:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Ok.. Endeavor have got back to me and said I should be fine for both weight and width.. Actually the difference between their 163 and 151 boards is less than a cm!
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I have small feet so I don't have experience about when to get a wide board but from what I've heard a lot of people say, if you wear US 11.5 or bigger you should at least check it out. If your boot has a low profile or your board is naturally wider you might be ok, but i know normally you'd probably want a wide board with US 13 boots. Also consider your style, if you're going to be going fast and carving hard or are going to be in deeper snow, you're going to want the board a little wider to keep the boots from digging into the snow. 153 might work regular since it's not your charging board but it might still be cutting it close. the 15 degree angles help too. just some stuff to think about.
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