yeah look at rome, the straps are atleast 10x better than unions on romes. ive got the 390s and the forces and the difference in comfort is like night and day
I have both the flux sf45, and union custom house pbr.
I will admit the union rackets are just awful, and the toe strap will fit some boots amazingly and some boots just won't fit. I have nike kaiji and they actually fit the toe straps really well. Even with all the union flaws, the union bindings are actually my go to bindings. I just like the feel of the contacts binding.
Flux bindings are super comfy, they kind of feel like pillow on your feet.
Awesome I was hoping to find someone like you who has both.
Ok so if the Flux's are so comfy what makes you choose union>flux
They ride better? Is the only downfall te toe strap? And what do you mean by the rackets? The cinching mechanism?
Sorry for my late reply. I chose union over fluxes just because of my riding style. I'm pretty sure if I had fluxes with urathan high backs I would of like those a lot better. A reason why its hard for me to compare both flux and union, is because the sf45 and union contacts are completely different kinds of bindings. I just like the flex feel of my unions.
Toe straps for unions. I have a pair or 32 boots that won't even fit in the toe strap. There union toe straps won't fit all boots. Racket fails, is when you try to get your bindings super tight (I ride pipe a lot). When you attempt to get it too tight the teeth of the racket will actually miss the strap and get looser. You prett much have to pull the racket leaver then press the teeth into strap.
You may want to consider something with canting. Last year I got a set of ride capos with canting and it was a "holly shit" moment in riding. I was not sure about it and it did not make me better by any means but it feels so much more comfortable! Just saying.
Henry.
Knowing how and how much you ride, this makes me want to put them to the test. But first, do you officially rep them in any other way? Sponsored? Sales rep? Lol, I had to ask...
regardless of if he's sponsored by them (yet) Cro is not a shill.
if the choice is between flux and union its flux all day every day. union bindings are a complete joke - at this point their toestraps (NOT a capstrap) is about 4-5 years behind the rest of the industry.
Bahaha. Poor Union losing to quite a few brand comparisons on this forum. They even lost to Rome in my thread hah:dunno: think this would spur some action for them to start making differences and hearing what we, the consumers, are wanting.
Thanks for the full disclosure... and I def never thought nor was I insinuating that you're a shill. I'm peeping some 2013 RK 30s for a really good price and am seriously thinking of pulling the trigger.
I'm rocking some 2012 rk30s on my park setup. They're comfy and offer great flex. For a urathane hi back they have good response. That beig said I don't think anyone would tell you to get them with out knowing what kind of riding you're doing. The tt30s are another option with good flex, but stiffer than the rk30s.
Unions were great when they came out, but the bindings industry has changed and union has been in a coma ever since. I checked out the 2013s today and they are the same old basic bindings but with some new colors. Go for fluxs
I've ridden both...Union over Flux hands down. Are there other good bindings out there? Of course. But when Union offers everything you need, why fuck around trying out other companies just to end up dissatisfied.
I ride the SL's, Atlas, and Force. Super happy with each of them.
Hahaha...this place is turning into a joke. Anti-Union flamers unite!!! Remember when all the cool people use to rally behind hating Burton. Union must be the worst brand on the planet to have so many people riding them.
Well to get the topic off flaming and immaturity. I appreciate a reps response about the Atlas's which i'm actually looking into getting myself as an all mountain freestyle binding but more so just all mountain.
Well since I started this I will also finish it. I appreciate all the help (mostly) from everyone. I still think Union makes a great binding and I would not at all write them off. I also think Flux has done a great job. I've done plenty of research on the two companies and that's why I narrowed it down to the two. Rome has helped me out a lot and I now realize that they do a great job with their company and have great customer service (I've sent them emails and they respond very promptly with great advice). They will also be taken into consideration. However, the advice to get Burton bindings went in one ear and out the other as that will never happen...
Since we are completely off my binding topic I will just say go Never Summer and boo Volcom because they beat NS in snowboarder magazine's battle of the brands which was complete horse shit.
Union makes a great binder, just not well recieved by this group of forum jockeys. Check around and you will find other forums full of equally knowledgeable people who rave about the good points of the Union design. PERSONAL PREFERENCE.
If you want to try the binders before you buy them then demo them from a shop. Many shops offer demo programs for binders as well as boards. Typically with binders the first day's demo charge will be taken off the retail cost of a binder should you decide to buy.
What other forum are you talking about? EL? Yeah they have a giant hard on for anything Burton or Union.
For the time being I will stick to the facts I know and try to curb some of my stronger opinions on the product. And I know that Unions toe straps and ratchets are sub par. Literally everyone else's straps fit more boots and their ratchets release easier.
I love how in this forum there are a few self appointed "experts" who get very sensitive when someone disagrees with their opinions. Makes me think they probably ride like girls.
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