Thoughts on stiff bindings - Snowboarding Forum

bseracka · 10-04-2012, 10:42 PM

So I killed my Idioms last season when I cracked a highback mid-season. I ended up franken-binding a setup together until I got new ones. After a lot of research I had narrowed my choices down to: Flux sf45, or DMCC and Rome Targas. I wasn't able to get my hands on any of these being so late in the year and wasn't motivated enough of a buyer to order on-line. By the time the end of season sales rolled around the discounts were eh and I decided to wait to see what changes were being made. Sadly no canting for flux and the paint and weight for rome seemed unchanged.

Fast forward to this season and I'm still trying to decide between these and have added the Raiden Machine. My problem is the only ones I'm going to be able to see in person are the sf45s and targas. I don't know that there is enough of a difference to justify the dmcc over the sf45s so I think I'm decided on that. The targas are the targas so I have to decide how important canting is. The unknown for me are the raiden machine. Anyone have any experience with the machines, or thoughts on them compared to the others?

ShredLife · 10-04-2012, 10:48 PM

have not rode em, but just based on the carnage in other's photos of DMCCs - if you are the type that breaks/can break bindings, they will not last a season. too much coring of the baseplate.

that's about all i got.... not too helpful i know... just to throw some more confusion in the mix - you might think about something from K2, they have something sweet with the auto series...

bseracka · 10-04-2012, 10:56 PM

Kind of figured as much with the DMCCs. I'm a traditionalist so the rear entry and autos just don't do much for me. No real reason to dislike except in my mind I feel like I don't have the tight connected feeling I'm used to/like.

Nivek · 10-04-2012, 11:27 PM

From K2 the Companies. That's their stiffest binding. Features that work, like the ankle strap hinge. Once that is not longer a K2 patent, expect to see it on everything cause its seriously amazing. Canting and Harshmellow for the loveliness.

Machines may be one of the stiffest bindings on the market. Even from the Raiden duder, they don't even have any team dudes, including Eero, that ride that binding, cause its just that gnar (I like commas and run on sentences). So if you want something like that, get these. Canting and my favorite dampening system on the market, airbags.

Rome, don't really need to go into that. You probably know everything there is to know as they get talked about a lot.

SF45's over DMCC's unless you just want to save weight really.

Triple8Sol · 10-05-2012, 03:53 PM

I've had both the DMCC and SF45, and the DMCC is definitely stiffer, lighter, and more responsive, which sounds like more up your alley. Of course, I have the 2011 model and not the slightly redesigned version now.

pdxrealtor · 10-05-2012, 09:20 PM

I've only tried one stiff binding and that's the Diode from Burton.

They're light, and from what I've found the high back can kick your ass or compliment your riding ..... I have mine setup so it's there when you need it and just right when you don't.

bseracka · 10-05-2012, 09:42 PM

Diode= fix or replace high back daily
To many reviews of snapped highbacks. I was initially interested in them as they're sweet bindings on paper, but didn't want to risk downtime. I hope you have better luck with them than some of the others on this forum.

pdxrealtor · 10-05-2012, 10:01 PM

I saw a recent post on that. Those high backs looked liked they were rode on cement!

Only time will tell..............maybe I just don't ride hard enough? Or in the right terrain to F them up?

ETM · 10-05-2012, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdxrealtor

I saw a recent post on that. Those high backs looked liked they were rode on cement!

Only time will tell..............maybe I just don't ride hard enough? Or in the right terrain to F them up?

good luck.

poutanen · 10-06-2012, 11:15 AM

I know it might be tougher to find now, but the Burton C60's are stiff as $%^&!!! If you want a small (sz 8 or less) or large (10+) there are white ones for sale by a few online vendors for roughly $280.

The highbacks are carbon fibre with an FRP structure behind it. Very stiff. I love them... Planning on pairing a set with a Kessler board if I get my hands on one.

10-04-2012, 10:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
bseracka Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 591	Thoughts on stiff bindings So I killed my Idioms last season when I cracked a highback mid-season. I ended up franken-binding a setup together until I got new ones. After a lot of research I had narrowed my choices down to: Flux sf45, or DMCC and Rome Targas. I wasn't able to get my hands on any of these being so late in the year and wasn't motivated enough of a buyer to order on-line. By the time the end of season sales rolled around the discounts were eh and I decided to wait to see what changes were being made. Sadly no canting for flux and the paint and weight for rome seemed unchanged. Fast forward to this season and I'm still trying to decide between these and have added the Raiden Machine. My problem is the only ones I'm going to be able to see in person are the sf45s and targas. I don't know that there is enough of a difference to justify the dmcc over the sf45s so I think I'm decided on that. The targas are the targas so I have to decide how important canting is. The unknown for me are the raiden machine. Anyone have any experience with the machines, or thoughts on them compared to the others?

10-04-2012, 10:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,338	have not rode em, but just based on the carnage in other's photos of DMCCs - if you are the type that breaks/can break bindings, they will not last a season. too much coring of the baseplate. that's about all i got.... not too helpful i know... just to throw some more confusion in the mix - you might think about something from K2, they have something sweet with the auto series... __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

10-04-2012, 11:27 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nivek Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Mountains of Mordor Posts: 5,369	From K2 the Companies. That's their stiffest binding. Features that work, like the ankle strap hinge. Once that is not longer a K2 patent, expect to see it on everything cause its seriously amazing. Canting and Harshmellow for the loveliness. Machines may be one of the stiffest bindings on the market. Even from the Raiden duder, they don't even have any team dudes, including Eero, that ride that binding, cause its just that gnar (I like commas and run on sentences). So if you want something like that, get these. Canting and my favorite dampening system on the market, airbags. Rome, don't really need to go into that. You probably know everything there is to know as they get talked about a lot. SF45's over DMCC's unless you just want to save weight really. __________________ Snowboarding Sucks.

10-05-2012, 03:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
Triple8Sol Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,686 Blog Entries: 1	I've had both the DMCC and SF45, and the DMCC is definitely stiffer, lighter, and more responsive, which sounds like more up your alley. Of course, I have the 2011 model and not the slightly redesigned version now. __________________ 14 NeverSummer Proto HD . 13 Never Summer Cobra . 12 Gnu Rider's Choice C2PTX 13 Now IPO . 12 K2 Formula . 11 K2 Formula 13 NB x 686 580

10-05-2012, 09:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
bseracka Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 591	Diode= fix or replace high back daily To many reviews of snapped highbacks. I was initially interested in them as they're sweet bindings on paper, but didn't want to risk downtime. I hope you have better luck with them than some of the others on this forum. Last edited by bseracka; 10-05-2012 at 09:45 PM.

10-04-2012, 10:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
bseracka Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 591	Kind of figured as much with the DMCCs. I'm a traditionalist so the rear entry and autos just don't do much for me. No real reason to dislike except in my mind I feel like I don't have the tight connected feeling I'm used to/like.

10-05-2012, 09:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
pdxrealtor Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 750	I've only tried one stiff binding and that's the Diode from Burton. They're light, and from what I've found the high back can kick your ass or compliment your riding ..... I have mine setup so it's there when you need it and just right when you don't.

10-05-2012, 10:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
pdxrealtor Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 750	I saw a recent post on that. Those high backs looked liked they were rode on cement! Only time will tell..............maybe I just don't ride hard enough? Or in the right terrain to F them up?

10-06-2012, 11:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
poutanen Resident Creep-o-saurus Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Calgary, AB Posts: 3,474	I know it might be tougher to find now, but the Burton C60's are stiff as $%^&!!! If you want a small (sz 8 or less) or large (10+) there are white ones for sale by a few online vendors for roughly $280. The highbacks are carbon fibre with an FRP structure behind it. Very stiff. I love them... Planning on pairing a set with a Kessler board if I get my hands on one.

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