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Old 11-07-2012, 02:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Try them before you buy them. Put the bindings on a board with your boot and torque the board side to side. If you can't try them at a store, make sure you can return at only shipping cost.

When I tried last years Flow's vs. the Gnu binding system, I did not like the Flow's. I found that the lack of toe side strap on the Flow's reduced heal side torsional flex compared to the Gnu's. The Gnu's heal strap also automatically loosened when the high back was pulled down which made entry into the binding even faster and easier. This was me buying my first equipment and I was able to notice the difference.

For those reasons I would recommend either this years:
-Flow Minx SE (2013 model with toe strap. other models traditional Flow design)
-Roxy rear entry designs
-Gnu Women's Line

Pay attention to stiffness too. I really like my stiffer binding since all I do is cruise the mountain just like you. Stiffer gives better control for carving. We don't need flexy noodles so we can hit rails. You might be happiest with a 5-6 flex? I don't believe companies change their flex ratings for women. I ride an 8 flex.

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Old 11-07-2012, 02:55 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The problem I run into now is that it's very tight w/ my new boots.

Anyway to fix that?
Your new boots are tight? The bindings are too tight and causing numbness/foot pain? Too tight on the toe? Too tight on the ankle?

I assume you've got the straps backed out to the maximum and then when you cinch up the back they are too tight. If that's the case you need a longer plastic ratchet piece. A local shop would have some.

Your new boots may also need to be broken in.

I could be wrong and someone may have better advice.
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Old 01-16-2013, 11:38 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Thanks,
I went to Breck & Keystone w/ them... I think the small size of binding is a bit too small for my size 8 boots... It takes a lot of effort to get my foot in or even taken out... I'll take them to the local shop and see if they can help me with it.

I'm going to Whistler in less than 1 month, I guess I'll have to go to a local trash hill ski area to test out both again and decide if I should bring my old binding or the K2 cinch I got :'(

Another issue I ran into in CO was that my heel & ankle kept on lifting up from my boot when I'm riding toe side,...

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Your new boots are tight? The bindings are too tight and causing numbness/foot pain? Too tight on the toe? Too tight on the ankle?

I assume you've got the straps backed out to the maximum and then when you cinch up the back they are too tight. If that's the case you need a longer plastic ratchet piece. A local shop would have some.

Your new boots may also need to be broken in.

I could be wrong and someone may have better advice.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:10 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I noticed with my K2 Cinch that it's difficult to get my boot in and out because of the angle when the high back is open. Flows open flat, Cinch only to about a 35 degree angle or so. I ran my Cinch for 1 season and by the end of the year the rubber on the highback is completely torn off and the inside of the ankle strap is shredded from me trying to manuever my boot into the binding. Sometimes I'd wipe myself out trying to get my boot in and out. Once I got my boot in, it was a nice tight fit and I really liked the binding overall.

This year I switched to a Salomon traditional entry binding.
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Old 01-16-2013, 12:16 PM   #35 (permalink)
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RedRomo,
so my friend and I aren't the only ones that has the same issue then.. He's got the 2013 Cinch and we both have to use a lot of force to get ourselves in... Sometimes my friend using the traditional binding actually beat me to strap in...

So you still prefer the traditional entry binding?
I haven't ride w/ my traditional binding this year but will like to try it out before I go to Whistler so I don't have to bring 2 sets of bindings with me...

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I noticed with my K2 Cinch that it's difficult to get my boot in and out because of the angle when the high back is open. Flows open flat, Cinch only to about a 35 degree angle or so. I ran my Cinch for 1 season and by the end of the year the rubber on the highback is completely torn off and the inside of the ankle strap is shredded from me trying to manuever my boot into the binding. Sometimes I'd wipe myself out trying to get my boot in and out. Once I got my boot in, it was a nice tight fit and I really liked the binding overall.

This year I switched to a Salomon traditional entry binding.
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I do prefer the traditional binding over the Cinch. The Cinch should really be referred to as a mid-top entry binding instead of rear entry IMO. I can't tell you how many times I got my boot half way in the binding, started sliding down the hill and wiped out. ...not cool.

I love my Salomon Rythm bindings. I bought them for under $100 off Ebay.

I can get into the bindings rather quickly. I just start the toe cap while I'm on the lift by ratcheting it one click. Then when I get off the lift I put my boot in, put the toe cap over, lock it in, then put the ankle strap on. I do this while standing. It only takes me about 10 seconds or so.
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:04 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I have size 8 or equiv salomon boots which are on small volume size and I have the medium k2 agogos. I cant imagine trying to get them into a small binding. Straps are relatively played out. Sounds like you got too small a size. FYI. Thumbs up for the agogos which are neither one nor the other but miles quicker in and out tan traditional two strap bindings.
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Yeah you essentially want your toe ramp to sit just about where your toes sprout from the ball of your foot for proper leverage. I've never worked with a Cinch that could accommodate that.
I have 2009 cinch , adjustable toe bed length took a screw driver. I had 2011 cinch cts with adjustable toe bed. On the cts there were two pegs that you pegs you push down , pull the bed out and push the pegs up. Bindings have to be unmounted.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:43 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Thanks... yea I was looking at some of the K2 ones too... but i've heard that flow has been doing it for so long they're a little bit more advanced on it.
After your wife rides w/ her new K2 please have her share her thoughts
The small bindings are too small for your woman's 8

Yes every year they advance closer to looking and working like the k2 cinch. They've gone to ratcheting buckles , two independent working straps tied together with dental floss, now their new system is very similar to the K2 with double pivot points. Next year they might get more bugs out. There is a long thread about their new nasty strap system review.

My wife started with Flows 3 years ago, went to cinch tryst after a couple of days,it was two steps, pull up high backs , pull up lock. My cinch were one step, pull up lock. She now has two pairs and sold flows on craigslist for $80, sold them more than i paid for the tryst. I've been on the same Cinch for about 6 years.

I tried changing one tryst Small for a mens M CTS, she had problems with the entry. They made the newer buckles contoured for the ankle, over engineered. She didn't notice the canted footbed or harsh mellow, but she also isn't landing on rails or hard half pipes. She did like the newer hard plastic strap over original flimsy one, I have two on order to replace her cinch. I replaced both CTS straps with the tryst and like it much better. I flipped the toe ladder strap around to have a ratchet and the top strap with a thiner one.

Toe overhang, it is just a toe catcher so you don't catch your toe. Your weight and force should be at the ball of your feet, using your toes will get your feet to get cramps and generate a lot of heel lift.

I like the idea of the new flow, but people complain about kicking in and the toe strap.

If you kick/skate from the front , you might kick open rear toe strap. I drilled a hole in strap of her rear foot and replaced it with a burton toe strap which is harder to kick open.

Also the buckles are difficult to move for a reason, so they don't over tighten, they don't get easier with use although you can replace them, but then deal with over tightened straps where you have to loosen them all the time.

We do trails and powered, no parks, she loves them.

I don't care about weight, my board and boots , and boot warmer battery packs make the difference in binding weight negligible. more weight means faster downhill speed. right?
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I have 2009 cinch , adjustable toe bed length took a screw driver. I had 2011 cinch cts with adjustable toe bed. On the cts there were two pegs that you pegs you push down , pull the bed out and push the pegs up. Bindings have to be unmounted.
I'm fully aware of how to adjust K2's. I've never been able to get the toe strap adjusted right so you're boot is positioned right. This was the same problem with Ride's Contraband.
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