Cartels or Capos? - Page 2 - Snowboarding Forum

snowklinger · 10-08-2012, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sangsters

Absolutely this.

I've had some issues with screws backing out with my Rides (maybe it is something to do with aluminum?) but a little loctite solved that.

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Originally Posted by david_z

I also thought maybe it was because the boards I was pairing had been sitting in the sun, but the bindings were in a box in the shade under the table, figured the temp difference would be enough to cause backing out as the materials expand at different rates, but it was a pain in the ass I had to tighten them each time up the lift. Loc-tite would work to fix that, hopefully!

2 things.

-Metal baseplates/discs will work themselves loose because the parts are so stiff and static, there is always a tiny bit of play. I have used both kinds, and if you tighten plastic discs down, this doesn't happen (it can but not nearly as much, for obvious reasons).

-from BurtonAvenger: put a drop of clear nail polish in the insert holes or on the tips of your mounting screws. It won't get brittle in the cold, cheaper than loctite, and easier to work with later so u don't strip out your screw heads. I rode Ride ContraBands for most of a season, constantly had the same problem, the clear nail polish WORKS.

sabatoa · 10-08-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nivek

I'd say switch it for the Capo's. I don't care what Burton says that new highback is noticeably softer and I can't see it not effecting the ride. I am convinced the Cartels are going to be more of a park binding than all mountain binding this year. I'm pushing people into Malavita's instead of Cartels this year for all mountain use. The highback is just stiffer.

Damn, I was on the site a week or two ago and it looked like the Malavita was softer than the Cartel.

Nivek · 10-09-2012, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sabatoa

Damn, I was on the site a week or two ago and it looked like the Malavita was softer than the Cartel.

Burton is still advertising as such. I just disagree. It's not uncommon for this to happen though. Change production, don't change how the site reads...

henry06x · 10-09-2012, 01:07 AM

I have been riding ride bindings for years and they do come loose a little I check them every couple days of riding to make sure they are snug if I can't physically feel the binding moving around. I had this problem a lot when I switch over to my academy board. The problem I was having was hole depth. The screw ride gave me was fine on ride boards but on other boards the were too long and bottoming out in the holes. They would hold shortly but would come loose after half a day or sooner if I was riding harder. I actually have 2 sets of screws now for the bindings. One set for my ride boards (the set that came with the binding) and a slightly shorter set I put in for my academy or other boards.

I have never found the ratchets to be sticky, but they do slip when you are cranking them down. They have a sweet spot tho and when you find it you can only do one or two clicks at a time to keep them from slipping if you really want them tight. Once you get use to it you don't even notice or atleast I don't.

The thin grip toe straps are great and I have yet to have them slip. They do tear tho but it's mostly cosmetic. The webbing tears or peals up, but it does not effect how they hold. Rides customer service is good about this and from everyone I have herd replaces them without any fuss.

The new ankle straps distribute weight so much better than rides old straps and I find them very comfortable even tho they look thin.

The capo is a very solid binding and I love mine. I do want to try other bindings for more prolonged amounts of time so a can give and have better comparisons tho.

atr3yu · 10-09-2012, 08:33 PM

Well to anyone that was following what I ended up getting..... I did switch my lay-away to the Capos. I look forward riding them soon and thank you everyone for the help!

mb889 · 10-13-2012, 10:32 AM

Damn Burton WTF? I just ordered a pair of Cartel Restricted. I'm very interested in your guys opinion of them on the mountain. I consider myself all mountain. I rode last years Union Force and while they were okay, I wasn't verly impressed. I've been looking forward to the Cartels, but now I'm hesitant on my order. I'm on a K2 Turbo dream.

snowklinger · 10-13-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mb889

Damn Burton WTF? I just ordered a pair of Cartel Restricted. I'm very interested in your guys opinion of them on the mountain. I consider myself all mountain. I rode last years Union Force and while they were okay, I wasn't verly impressed. I've been looking forward to the Cartels, but now I'm hesitant on my order. I'm on a K2 Turbo dream.

relax

mb889 · 10-13-2012, 04:06 PM

Thanks Ill try to.
Just a bit of a surprise to hear they may be leaning to the soft side this year.

Triple8Sol · 11-07-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by snowklinger

FWIW I haven't ridden enough bindings enough days but I very much prefer the feeling of plastic over metal bindings.

Agreed. I used to love my Preston and later Ride and Rome bindings, but do prefer a plastic/nylon/glass chassis these days.

10-09-2012, 01:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
henry06x Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 348	I have been riding ride bindings for years and they do come loose a little I check them every couple days of riding to make sure they are snug if I can't physically feel the binding moving around. I had this problem a lot when I switch over to my academy board. The problem I was having was hole depth. The screw ride gave me was fine on ride boards but on other boards the were too long and bottoming out in the holes. They would hold shortly but would come loose after half a day or sooner if I was riding harder. I actually have 2 sets of screws now for the bindings. One set for my ride boards (the set that came with the binding) and a slightly shorter set I put in for my academy or other boards. I have never found the ratchets to be sticky, but they do slip when you are cranking them down. They have a sweet spot tho and when you find it you can only do one or two clicks at a time to keep them from slipping if you really want them tight. Once you get use to it you don't even notice or atleast I don't. The thin grip toe straps are great and I have yet to have them slip. They do tear tho but it's mostly cosmetic. The webbing tears or peals up, but it does not effect how they hold. Rides customer service is good about this and from everyone I have herd replaces them without any fuss. The new ankle straps distribute weight so much better than rides old straps and I find them very comfortable even tho they look thin. The capo is a very solid binding and I love mine. I do want to try other bindings for more prolonged amounts of time so a can give and have better comparisons tho. __________________ 2011 Academy Propaganda Rev - 2012 Rome 390 Boss 2012 Never Summer SL 2012 - Ride Capo Last edited by henry06x; 10-09-2012 at 01:20 AM.

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10-09-2012, 08:33 PM	#15 (permalink)
atr3yu Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Nelson, BC Posts: 469	Well to anyone that was following what I ended up getting..... I did switch my lay-away to the Capos. I look forward riding them soon and thank you everyone for the help!

10-13-2012, 10:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
mb889 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NM Posts: 65	Damn Burton WTF? I just ordered a pair of Cartel Restricted. I'm very interested in your guys opinion of them on the mountain. I consider myself all mountain. I rode last years Union Force and while they were okay, I wasn't verly impressed. I've been looking forward to the Cartels, but now I'm hesitant on my order. I'm on a K2 Turbo dream.

10-13-2012, 04:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
mb889 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NM Posts: 65	Thanks Ill try to. Just a bit of a surprise to hear they may be leaning to the soft side this year.