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Old 10-14-2012, 05:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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WTF?

Where are you getting this from? I gave advice and posted some techniques and disagreed with another`s adivce and for that you claim I am butthurt or having tantrums yet look at the way this guy eresponded to me.....

Besides, did you not get that my comment about you setting yourself on fire was a joke?????

Maybe you need the emoticon too there buddy.

And by the way, are you going to now chastize Shredlife because this ewarrior wants to impress us all with how much of an expert he is and attacked him too? I think its pretty clear who is butthurt and who is having a temper tantrum over someone having an opinion that differs. You did`nt see me write a post like this:



Bottom line dude is this. I pass on what I know, people are free to take it or leave it but if they say I am wrong, I am not going to just go "Oh okay youre right" out of fear of being disagreeable. When I know I am right and have the facts, I am going to stand up for it and not back down. If you weeping cunts can`t handle that, then go the fuck away and join another forum.
I too will never back down if I believe I'm right.
You might have been right if there was loctite on the screw, it was never stated that there was though.
So you didn't know the facts. You just assumed you did. That makes you wrong.

I would agree you shouldn't back down, if you know the facts.

Not backing down when you don't know the facts though, could get you in trouble one day.

Especially when you kids like to play with guns so much down there.

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Old 10-14-2012, 06:06 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Fuck, I was just away for a couple of hours! That's it, no more sugar for any of you. Damned kids....
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:13 PM   #43 (permalink)
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good call on your part, if the need arises I will try this trick. For the mean time I just keep my stuff in good working order.
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:15 PM   #44 (permalink)
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I would just get pissed off, destroy the whole fucking board and buy a new board and new base plates after I ripped my bindings off. perfect excuse for a new board.
This is exactly what I'd do.....

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Okay. Im gonna skip over the all the bickering here. The guys at the Source weren't dumb enought to use red loctite, just the blue stuff. I just heated up the screwdriver with the torch, put it in the head for a little then turned. Screws came out. Thanks for all the advice and now ive got bindings on my new board.
I'm glad you got them out.

Sounds like everyone is ready for the snow.... and a couple of you are ready for daycare, or need some pussy. Good Lord
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Old 10-14-2012, 06:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
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and a couple of you are ready for daycare, or need some pussy. Good Lord
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if they used red loctite you need to heat it to something like 400 or maybe 600 degrees to get it to let go...

obviously you can't take a blowtorch to a snowboard but you might be able to torch a screwdriver seated in the screw and get enough of the heat to transfer... or get a soldering gun and use that to heat it, one screw at a time..
but if the screw gets heated its just going to swell in the threads and end up tighter IMO.
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but if the screw gets heated its just going to swell in the threads and end up tighter IMO.
I think the question in this case is whether the bolt will expand significantly before or after the heat would have loosened the loctite. Actual experience seems to indicate the latter in this case.
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Old 10-14-2012, 07:57 PM   #48 (permalink)
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You are essentially correct but that is just a part of the whole equation. It's an old machinist's trick. You heat a bolt and yes it expands faster than the surrounding metal so yes, initially it gets tighter. The bolt also cools faster; especially if you actively cool in with cutting oil or even water. Now it contracts faster than surrounding metal and momentarily becomes looser than it was.

That's for metal to metal contact but in the case of a bolt or screw that has any adhesive materil whether it's red or blue loctite, permatex, glue, whatever, heat makes these materials more pliable and at relatively low heat too.

In this guy's case, his waxing iron would be hot enough provided he could get it inside the binding to hold to the screw head.
I have done the hole heating before to loosen a bolt but have always done it by heating the outside area instead of the bolt. I have done it on bolts with and without loctite. Heating the bolt then trying to cool it faster does make sense when I think about it. I just never have done it that way or had to.
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Old 10-14-2012, 08:28 PM   #49 (permalink)
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Not a moderator pal, Im an Admin. I handle technical aspects of the forum. The mods are the E police here. I am just a tech guy so get off your lecturing high horse about "my repsonsibilities as a moderator" your`e barking up the wrong tree......
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My question about "so you have worked in a shop?" was a legitimate question. I cant help it if you took THAT personally and found it offensive. You need a little thicker hide I suspect if you took offense to that.
Gotcha, gotcha.

Lecturing high horse is way, way more accurate than taking offense. It's a whole new world today... I don't take offense. My 17 year old nephew said to me a couple years back when I tried to get him into skateboarding "I'm not one of those skateboard jocks". What a 180. Bizzarro world. My world is the punk rock one I grew up in, when you couldn't ride snowboards at resorts, when you had to run from the cops or get your skateboards confiscated.
And the guys I stood up for were the ones getting bullied by others. We rallied together to a common cause. It's a good feeling.

I see that happening on forums like these all the time. Elitists who have cred by virtue of being keyboard commandos. So I legitimately apologize if I pegged you as one of those - when someone comes at someone with the implication of "I'm better than you", that rubs me the wrong way. I'm more than glad to turn a scenario around so that the person trying to make someone else look like a fool -looks like a fool. Some people legitimately need to be put in their place to get their feet back on the ground and head out of the clouds. Especially forums where people looking for advice (who are inherently vulnerable) are trying to find answers. Advice is valuable.

So again - I apologize for coming off aggressive. I thought I had reason to... and then was a little doubly taken aback when I saw "admin" and thought "moderator". Lecturing high horse - guilty as charged.
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