Changing glued in bindings? - Snowboarding Forum

aubzobot · 10-13-2012, 04:30 PM

Hey guys.

Last year I bought some new bindings and the shop offered to put them on. I guess they used locktight or something cause I cant get them out. I didnt realize until i'd stripped most of the screws. How do i go about getting the bindings off without ruining them, or the board theyre attached too?

Thanks

slyder · 10-13-2012, 04:36 PM

If they used Red Loctite you might be SOL !!!!!

I have no idea if you could use a penetrating oil or not. NO idea if it would wreck the materials inside the board as it soaks in. I'm sure someone will chime in on that method.

This is also why I loosen the bindings on all of our boards while they sit over the summer.

you may need to grind off the screw heads to remove the base plates then geta bolt extractor to get them out but that is worse-case-senario

geolemon · 10-13-2012, 04:39 PM

Well, now that you've stripped the screws you might be in a real "sorry, tough luck" scenario. You should have noticed the screw heads stripping because the screwdriver was popping out of the screw, jumping rather than turning.

What you could do, IF you have enough left on the head of the screw, is to use an impact driver. You probably don't want to spend the $200 to buy one, but borrow one from any friend of yours who does construction. It looks like an electric drill, but what it does is completely different. It's a miniature version of the impact gun they use on cars to free rusted and torqued big bolts.

All you need to do is use the right size screwdriver bit on it, and it'll hammer them free. You'll be mind-blown at how easy it is.

But if the screw heads are too stripped, you might be out of luck.

aubzobot · 10-13-2012, 04:44 PM

Theyre not too bad, and its only the right binding i stripped them on. My older brother owns a construction renovation business so ill see if he has one. If that doesnt work i guess ill grind em off.

slyder · 10-13-2012, 04:46 PM

You can still use an impact hammer with a straight blade screw driver attachment.

Take a dremmel tool with a cutting wheel and CAREFULLY, since you F'ed it up already, cut a groove into the top of the screw head. Then use the impact screw driver to help drive it out.

Make sense???

aubzobot · 10-13-2012, 05:00 PM

Yup. Make sense. One of the first times ive ever really needed my dremel.

ShredLife · 10-13-2012, 05:06 PM

if they used red loctite you need to heat it to something like 400 or maybe 600 degrees to get it to let go...

obviously you can't take a blowtorch to a snowboard but you might be able to torch a screwdriver seated in the screw and get enough of the heat to transfer... or get a soldering gun and use that to heat it, one screw at a time..

slyder · 10-13-2012, 05:11 PM

another old school mechanics trick.
Don't just try to loosen. When working witha stuck bolt or nut we loosen then tighten, loosen, tighten until it starts to free up.
You might also try this trick.

hvalley76 · 10-13-2012, 05:18 PM

hammer.jpg
Get one of these. Invaluable if you ever work on a motorcycle engine too.
$5.99 for a cheap one @ harbor freight but it will work for what you're doing

timmytard · 10-13-2012, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slyder

You can still use an impact hammer with a straight blade screw driver attachment.

Take a dremmel tool with a cutting wheel and CAREFULLY, since you F'ed it up already, cut a groove into the top of the screw head. Then use the impact screw driver to help drive it out.

Make sense???

I was going to suggest the same thing, I just had to do that about 2 weeks ago.

I really don't understand why someone, after stripping the first one, would continue to strip all the rest too?

I had to do all 4 on one binding.

TT

10-13-2012, 04:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
aubzobot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 151	Changing glued in bindings? Hey guys. Last year I bought some new bindings and the shop offered to put them on. I guess they used locktight or something cause I cant get them out. I didnt realize until i'd stripped most of the screws. How do i go about getting the bindings off without ruining them, or the board theyre attached too? Thanks

10-13-2012, 04:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
slyder Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Milwaukee Suburbs Posts: 1,917	If they used Red Loctite you might be SOL !!!!! I have no idea if you could use a penetrating oil or not. NO idea if it would wreck the materials inside the board as it soaks in. I'm sure someone will chime in on that method. This is also why I loosen the bindings on all of our boards while they sit over the summer. you may need to grind off the screw heads to remove the base plates then geta bolt extractor to get them out but that is worse-case-senario __________________ Thanks -Slyder Last edited by slyder; 10-13-2012 at 04:39 PM.

10-13-2012, 04:46 PM	#5 (permalink)
slyder Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Milwaukee Suburbs Posts: 1,917	You can still use an impact hammer with a straight blade screw driver attachment. Take a dremmel tool with a cutting wheel and CAREFULLY, since you F'ed it up already, cut a groove into the top of the screw head. Then use the impact screw driver to help drive it out. Make sense??? __________________ Thanks -Slyder Last edited by slyder; 10-13-2012 at 04:48 PM.

10-13-2012, 05:06 PM	#7 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,332	if they used red loctite you need to heat it to something like 400 or maybe 600 degrees to get it to let go... obviously you can't take a blowtorch to a snowboard but you might be able to torch a screwdriver seated in the screw and get enough of the heat to transfer... or get a soldering gun and use that to heat it, one screw at a time.. __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

10-13-2012, 05:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
slyder Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Milwaukee Suburbs Posts: 1,917	another old school mechanics trick. Don't just try to loosen. When working witha stuck bolt or nut we loosen then tighten, loosen, tighten until it starts to free up. You might also try this trick. __________________ Thanks -Slyder

10-13-2012, 04:39 PM	#3 (permalink)
geolemon Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 34	Well, now that you've stripped the screws you might be in a real "sorry, tough luck" scenario. You should have noticed the screw heads stripping because the screwdriver was popping out of the screw, jumping rather than turning. What you could do, IF you have enough left on the head of the screw, is to use an impact driver. You probably don't want to spend the $200 to buy one, but borrow one from any friend of yours who does construction. It looks like an electric drill, but what it does is completely different. It's a miniature version of the impact gun they use on cars to free rusted and torqued big bolts. All you need to do is use the right size screwdriver bit on it, and it'll hammer them free. You'll be mind-blown at how easy it is. But if the screw heads are too stripped, you might be out of luck.

10-13-2012, 04:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
aubzobot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 151	Theyre not too bad, and its only the right binding i stripped them on. My older brother owns a construction renovation business so ill see if he has one. If that doesnt work i guess ill grind em off.

10-13-2012, 05:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
aubzobot Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 151	Yup. Make sense. One of the first times ive ever really needed my dremel.

10-13-2012, 05:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
hvalley76 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Cleveland, OH Posts: 64	hammer.jpg Get one of these. Invaluable if you ever work on a motorcycle engine too. $5.99 for a cheap one @ harbor freight but it will work for what you're doing

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