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Old 11-09-2012, 12:09 PM   #61 (permalink)
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if you've been around snowboarding for 2 years you are an authority on nothing. your advice is not built on experience - its built on opinion and shit other people have told you/you read on teh webz
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:15 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Don't be hypocritical EL guys.

Let me tell you that I did a brief review of the Forces that I demoed at the 2011 Test Fest. In that review, I specifically stated my negative tone had more to do with the countless Union fanboys that used to destroy threads in this very forum. Yes, I was annoyed by this forum's users.

I gave my honest opinion about my experience and fully disclosed that they were pre-production at a demo event. So what happened after that? Johan came in and basically bashed me. He made real snooty remarks like I was hating on Union as a company.

But you won't see his remarks because he deleted that account and made one under his EL name.

Let me add that when I requested catalog info on union bindings via my work, which started carrying Unions, he made a comment asking if I'm "The Leo Shim who hates all things Union." This was on my work email. I post on here in my spare time. Yet, he chose to bring up his silly beef in our work email exchange.

So don't come in these forums acting altruistic. You guys are being hypocritical especially considering how you talk about us in that EL thread. Don't talk about how you care about snowboarding and think this bickering and fanboyism is trash when some of you EL members trashed me for posting about products on EL a while back. Admittedly though, a lot more of you were cool with me than not.

My point is, this forum or that forum, same shit goes on. I intended to keep my mouth shut, but this is getting ridiculous. If Johan truly wanted to be constructive and not just hate on SBF, he would have tossed those Team bindings to a "misinformed" or "uneducated" member here to have them give Union a legitimate try.

So don't kid anyone. You guys aren't here to help. You're here to be condescending hypocrites.

And please, don't go snitching me out to my employer for this post or have any of your cronies talk shit to me at test fest as I walk by.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:16 PM   #63 (permalink)
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If you've been riding the equipment in question two years longer than the other person who seems to have an opinion on it, based on hours of writing. The other person is an authority on nothing, and is the source of the opinion and shit other people have told you/read on teh webz.

Do you have a binding suggestion? I'm tired of asking you this question in every thread.

Edit: Leo, I respect your (and Dave's) opinion around here, and if you weren't feeling unions, you weren't feeling them. You also have explained why, clearly, and with disclosure. You are, unfortunately, an exception to the rule. It's not altruism, and I have said such in other threads. It's that, for some reason, a very vocal group around here, with no qualifications/limited experience with the product on the shelves being asked about, feel the need to say nonconstructive, and silly things whenever this product is asked about.

When someone, who HAS ridden the product and knows more about it, disagrees, they chime in again, with the same lack of experience with the product in question but a bunch of INSANE ramblings about their snowboarding stripes. Which don't mean shit, if it isn't about what the poster is asking. All people are asking for here, is for those people to respectfully disagree and move on.

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Old 11-09-2012, 12:18 PM   #64 (permalink)
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if you've been around snowboarding for 2 years you are an authority on nothing. your advice is not built on experience - its built on opinion and shit other people have told you/you read on teh webz
I've been around snowboarding for almost 27 years. There are people who have been riding for two years who have MUCH more experience with certain gear than I do. I respect their experiences and opinions as valid. I don't, however, take ANYONE'S opinion as being authoritative.

Generally, the more emotional comments (ie: X brand sucks!) that are associated with an opinion, the less I consider it when forming my own.

I know too many people who rip on gear that would absolutely not work for me to ever think that there are universal truths about this shit. Any attempt by some blowhard to make themselves appear to be an authority on matters of subjective opinion just makes them look like an asshole. Blind advocacy or opposition is ridiculous. 90% rider, 10% board (and other gear). Ride what you like.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:23 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Don't be hypocritical EL guys.

Let me tell you that I did a brief review of the Forces that I demoed at the 2011 Test Fest. In that review, I specifically stated my negative tone had more to do with the countless Union fanboys that used to destroy threads in this very forum. Yes, I was annoyed by this forum's users.

I gave my honest opinion about my experience and fully disclosed that they were pre-production at a demo event. So what happened after that? Johan came in and basically bashed me. He made real snooty remarks like I was hating on Union as a company.

But you won't see his remarks because he deleted that account and made one under his EL name.

Let me add that when I requested catalog info on union bindings via my work, which started carrying Unions, he made a comment asking if I'm "The Leo Shim who hates all things Union." This was on my work email. I post on here in my spare time. Yet, he chose to bring up his silly beef in our work email exchange.

So don't come in these forums acting altruistic. You guys are being hypocritical especially considering how you talk about us in that EL thread. Don't talk about how you care about snowboarding and think this bickering and fanboyism is trash when some of you EL members trashed me for posting about products on EL a while back. Admittedly though, a lot more of you were cool with me than not.

My point is, this forum or that forum, same shit goes on. I intended to keep my mouth shut, but this is getting ridiculous. If Johan truly wanted to be constructive and not just hate on SBF, he would have tossed those Team bindings to a "misinformed" or "uneducated" member here to have them give Union a legitimate try.

So don't kid anyone. You guys aren't here to help. You're here to be condescending hypocrites.

And please, don't go snitching me out to my employer for this post or have any of your cronies talk shit to me at test fest as I walk by.
I am not a fanboy. In the interest of full disclosure, this is what I posted on EL in regards to why I decided to be more active on SBF:

" I just don't like people being asshats to each other in a way that makes enjoying snowboarding more difficult. We all know how difficult it can be to find solid info and get a set-up that you trust, fits you well, and lets you concentrate on the IMPORTANT part of the 90/10 aspect of riding. Being told by an "expert" that the ONLY way to approach buying gear is to buy EXACTLY what they tell you to get - regardless of your budget or personal preferences. Fuck that!

The pretentious "experienced rider as gatekeeper to the sport" thing is just so much bullshit, too. I volunteer my time and money for organizations like the service board and the chill foundation trying to get kids into snowboarding and keep them stoked on a free, open, inclusive community of riders who just want to have fun and share the outdoors. The "core" douchers ruin all that, and fuck with kids who are already apprehensive about trying to be "cool" even though they can't buy all the raddest brands, and they're still working on linking their turns or making it smoothly to the far side of the butter box. I HATE that shit.

When an obviously young, inexperienced rider wants to know whether they should buy the t. rice or the custom flying v, it's not time to belittle their question or steer them towards your pet brand. It's an opportunity to help a kid find a board that they're gonna be stoked on and learn to do their first ollie on. That's the board that will begin to define what a pow turn is. They'll make regretful sticker choices, and they'll be crushed when it first starts to get dinged up in the lift lines. How do the Nivek and ShredLife tools not remember what that is like?"
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:27 PM   #66 (permalink)
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this.

Also, Shredlife? Do you have any binding suggestions for the Original Poster.

I said Atlases maybe Forces just to have something different. Unless the poster loves burton, then Malavitas.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:28 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Blind advocacy or opposition is ridiculous.
nothing blind about it at all. listen really closely:

- there has been a known issue for years. many users have problems with the toecaps - we see it here all the time.

- union knows there is an issue and does nothing about it. year after year.

- oh wait, they do do something about it - they get their internet fanboys to spam a forum that they don't like. pathetic - there is your emotional response. a company that works like this is just sad.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:28 PM   #68 (permalink)
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How is two seasons of riding not enough time to form a valid opinion?

What super-OG-core-bro-"I'll be on misty 2014 shit by this Christmas"
I said that you jack stack. And I get more days on mountain and step in/on more poduct before March than you ever will in your life. That's where the credibility comes from.

Two seasons or riding total in life? Or on a single product? Cause fuck no do I give any credibility to someone who's been snowboarding 2 years. They can't have ridden enough to form a valid opinion cause they've likely only ridden what their first purchase was. What kind of comparison can they make from that?

Ride what you like sure, and you'll notice I have yet to say a whole brand sucks by the way. The toe straps and ratchets are sub par, and the Force baseplate has no padding. Where have I said that the whole brand is garbage. In fact all this started with Johan bitching at me after I said I look forward to riding the Atlas except the toe strap. Nice job.
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Two seasons or riding total in life? Or on a single product? Cause fuck no do I give any credibility to someone who's been snowboarding 2 years. They can't have ridden enough to form a valid opinion cause they've likely only ridden what their first purchase was. What kind of comparison can they make from that?
Members of snowboarding forum. If you've only been riding for two years, your opinion is not valid to Nivek, the tiny Prince of snowboarding forum!

All HAIL TINY NIVEK!!!!


BUT DON'T BURTON HAIL HIM WITH AN ATLAS!! IT WILL TAKE HIM TWO HOURS TO FIGURE IT OUT AND HE WILL CRY AND QUIT!!!

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Old 11-09-2012, 12:43 PM   #70 (permalink)
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I said that you jack stack. And I get more days on mountain and step in/on more poduct before March than you ever will in your life. That's where the credibility comes from.

lol fucking kook.

Do you ride Arcteryx as well?
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