Malavitas or Union Forces? - Page 9 - Snowboarding Forum

ShredLife · 11-09-2012, 01:12 PM

well at this point its obvious that Union would rather spend its time attacking and antagonizing fellow snowboarders rather than addressing the years of concerns, complaints, and suggestions from the riding community.

really really sad.

matty19 · 11-09-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

if you don't have the 90% yet your opinion on the 10% doesn't really matter.

i'll get at least 80-100 days this year - the equivalent of your life's experience.

Arcteryx - sorry little buddy but you're just showing your ignorance here. if you're into your fashionista thing and like to buy new outerwear every season or two that's on you. i like shit that works and lasts. Arcteryx makes hands down the most effective outerwear in the game. better than any snowboarding company because all of them are marketing to little teeny-bopper hipster-wannabes who are sponsored by mommy. name one. say AK and i'll laugh in your face.

Is any of this aimed at me?

I'm not the one who started riding two years ago. I started riding almost 27 years ago. There were some breaks in there, and I may not have a lifestyle that allows me to ride more than a couple of days a week, but I get my days in. I'm not going pro or anything, but I'm happy with my 90%.

Arcteryx doesn't make "hands down" anything (except maybe one of the most expensive options on the market). They make seam-welded gore-tex outerwear. So do a bunch of other companies. Same fabrics. Same laminates. For my money, the jackets have a fit that's too short in the body, and the pants have cuffs that are a little snog to comfortably get over my boots. If they work for you, that's great. I have a few different pieces of outerwear, but I'm really liking the stuff from Airblaster and Volcom lately. they fit my tall frame, and the price and construction are in line with what works best for me. I ride primarily in the PNW, so waterproofing and breathability are a big deal.

Is this the part where your opinion enables you to belittle mine?

phony_stark · 11-09-2012, 01:18 PM

Leon,

I don't think Nose hates anyone on snowboarding forum, but he has noticed, that there are a few people on here that spit misinformation all over the place to people that are actually interested in the products he's selling.

Leo, you did the right thing, you didn't like the products, had an e-fight (maybe?) and were like, well I'm going to spread the stoke about stuff I do like. I didn't like Union, but I have other things to sell.

You didn't have anything nice to say, so you didn't say anything at all.

Two people on this very thread, one of which hasn't contributed ANYTHING to the thread, go OUT of their way, to shoot down every Union post based on very limited experiences, or outdated ones.

Again, you, Dave, SnowWolf climbz, are people around here I respect.

Nivek, I just can't take seriously anymore, especially when it comes to Union stuff.
I have no idea what Shredlife does except follow me and Nivek.

Alkasquawlik · 11-09-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo

I just don't get why Johan's panties are this bunched up. Doesn't he realize that he is losing customers here. Love or hate this forum, but just like at EL, people buy gear based on what they read here.

I can't imagine how awesome Johan could have made Union look had he chose to give those Team bindings to someone here... not a reviewer, but someone looking to decide between a Union or say a Malavita.

That would have been respect right there. Instead, potential Union customers are now seeing people from two different forums arguing with each other because of a contest Johan, a Union employee, decided to run.

Matty, you're trying to be reasonable right? Am I way off base here with what I said?

You want to see awesome marketing and use of forums like these? Pay attention to Never Summer, Rome, and even Wired Sports. Look at the loyalty they receive and just how many of their products are being bought based off how they treat members here.

That could have easily been Union with Johan. Maybe he's just too core to do the same. But then again, isn't that why he hates SBF members? Because we think we're too core?

This wasn't a "forum raid", at all. Although the Pointer Sisters may say otherwise.

Johan's whole rationale for this "contest" was to encourage members from EL who are either pro-Union or have had solid, positive experiences on their bindings to come to SBF to provide an opposite viewpoint to the vocal minority that is vehemently against C3.

Phony doesn't want the Teams. I don't want the Teams. I'm sure matty doesn't either. I couldn't give a fuck less about that contest. The reason why we're here is because we enjoy talking about snowboarding with other people.

Do you even know who Johan is?
He is an integral part of the community over at EL, along with numerous other industry people. He posts in threads, bullshits, and has personal relationships with a bunch of posters there. Much like WiredSport and whatever other guys you have here. That's awesome marketing. I even think he took some ELers feedback and input them into last year's Superpros.

Anyway, anyone who wants to talk snowboarding is more than welcome over at Easyloungin.

Alkasquawlik · 11-09-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

Arcteryx - sorry little buddy but you're just showing your ignorance here. if you're into your fashionista thing and like to buy new outerwear every season or two that's on you. i like shit that works and lasts. Arcteryx makes hands down the most effective outerwear in the game. better than any snowboarding company because all of them are marketing to little teeny-bopper hipster-wannabes who are sponsored by mommy. name one. say AK and i'll laugh in your face.

I get the feeling you're a sad, grumpy, single older male who hates the "skittle colored" younger generation. Amirite?

Have fun rocking your Arcteryx. I'll be the kid decked out in Analog.

ShredLife · 11-09-2012, 01:24 PM

no that diatribe was to your little buddies.

they do not use the same face fabrics. period. the sabre line and more of the newer stuff is cut more with an "on resort/i never have to wear a harness or a backpack" kind of a look.

volcom's gore is nothing like Arc' everything from V has liners: pointless in a gore hardshell. they're also sub-par construction compared to Arc' - hell even Mt. Hardware is...

airblaster???

come on dude.

if all you do is ride resorts and you buy or get kicked new gear every year or two then i can see why you're fine with it.

when/if you start riding backcountry, camping in the snow in tents or in snowcaves, hiking for lines, and living in your gear you will realize what i'm talking about.
Trew, HomeSchool (sorta), AK (sub-par construction to Arc') LINERLESS shells are about the only thing coming close to a 'snowboard' company trying to compete with Arc'

ShredLife · 11-09-2012, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Alkasquawlik

Have fun rocking your Arcteryx. I'll be the kid who needs new gear every season

fixed.....

KungMartin · 11-09-2012, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bseracka

I'd really perfer you didn't and don't want anything from you even if you do. Personally I thought the wierd stuf was the Germans, not the Sweeds. My point is: you bought an incorrectly sized board for your foot size, you don't know how to mount bindings, you bought bindings that you like and you bought boots that are not naturally shaped to work with your bindings highback causing an ill fit. I don't understand what makes you have any knowledge to drop about snowboarding in general, or bindings you've never ridden.

i have ridden'em. they're 11/12 union force. and everything was fine, only problem evidently was that i had slightly more toe than heel drag.

you just have no idea what you're saying do you?

Alkasquawlik · 11-09-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

fixed.....

yup, gearwhore-ness has it's downfalls.

Although, I could take a page out of Nivek's book and claim some shit to make myself seem more popular on SBF, but I'd rather not.

Like I said, enjoy your Arcteryx.

phony_stark · 11-09-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ShredLife

no that diatribe was to your little buddies.

when/if you start sleeping in a van down by the river you'll realize what i'm talking about.
'

I love this guy.

11-09-2012, 01:12 PM	#81 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,349	well at this point its obvious that Union would rather spend its time attacking and antagonizing fellow snowboarders rather than addressing the years of concerns, complaints, and suggestions from the riding community. really really sad. __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

11-09-2012, 01:24 PM	#86 (permalink)
ShredLife The Rooster King Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,349	no that diatribe was to your little buddies. they do not use the same face fabrics. period. the sabre line and more of the newer stuff is cut more with an "on resort/i never have to wear a harness or a backpack" kind of a look. volcom's gore is nothing like Arc' everything from V has liners: pointless in a gore hardshell. they're also sub-par construction compared to Arc' - hell even Mt. Hardware is... airblaster??? come on dude. if all you do is ride resorts and you buy or get kicked new gear every year or two then i can see why you're fine with it. when/if you start riding backcountry, camping in the snow in tents or in snowcaves, hiking for lines, and living in your gear you will realize what i'm talking about. Trew, HomeSchool (sorta), AK (sub-par construction to Arc') LINERLESS shells are about the only thing coming close to a 'snowboard' company trying to compete with Arc' __________________ get the hell off my lawn.

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11-09-2012, 01:18 PM	#83 (permalink)
phony_stark Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 488	Leon, I don't think Nose hates anyone on snowboarding forum, but he has noticed, that there are a few people on here that spit misinformation all over the place to people that are actually interested in the products he's selling. Leo, you did the right thing, you didn't like the products, had an e-fight (maybe?) and were like, well I'm going to spread the stoke about stuff I do like. I didn't like Union, but I have other things to sell. You didn't have anything nice to say, so you didn't say anything at all. Two people on this very thread, one of which hasn't contributed ANYTHING to the thread, go OUT of their way, to shoot down every Union post based on very limited experiences, or outdated ones. Again, you, Dave, SnowWolf climbz, are people around here I respect. Nivek, I just can't take seriously anymore, especially when it comes to Union stuff. I have no idea what Shredlife does except follow me and Nivek.