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Shralp likes it stiffer.

Also, bro, 3 pins > 2 pins

about 38% better.
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Canted footbeds, ankle strap hinge, 3 pin ratchets, on the fly ramp adjustment, and my apparent favorite, all tool less.

You work in a shop right? I'm sure listing those items is a selling point.

I don't prefer canted footbeds, and I adjust my bindings before going out so no need for on the fly adjustments.

To each their own. I prefer the simplicity of Union's. I also like the fact I haven't had any issues or pieces break over the last several years riding them. Rock Solid.


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Shralp likes it stiffer.

Also, bro, 3 pins > 2 pins

about 38% better.
I don't get this? What are you trying to say?

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You work in a shop right? I'm sure listing those items is a selling point.

I don't prefer canted footbeds, and I adjust my bindings before going out so no need for on the fly adjustments.

To each their own. I prefer the simplicity of Union's. I also like the fact I haven't had any issues or pieces break over the last several years riding them. Rock Solid.
Strap hinge is seriously great to have. Canted footbeds, fair enough, but majority of the industry finds them better and anatomically they do make more sense. 3 pin ratchets work smoother and don't bind. It's the reason K2, Ride, and Salomon have all moved to them. And Tool less just means if something happens on the mountain you don't need a tool.

On the fly ramp adjustment is really a feature that the shop guys like. Makes things easier to adjust before we send them out with the new gear.

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I really like how easy mine are too.

I really think that they're larger than the sum of their parts.
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I don't get this? What are you trying to say?
I was just throwing a number out there for the amount of improvement. It's just a guess though.

Shralp, however, really does like it stiff. That's a fact.
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Canted footbeds, ankle strap hinge, 3 pin ratchets, on the fly ramp adjustment, and my apparent favorite, all tool less.
Which are all mostly unnecessary. Union bindings have what you need, without all that bullshit (like someone pointed out) that you don't need.
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I didn't make the decision to carry them did I? And I sell Formulas before Forces without saying a single negative thing about either binding. They're better. Same for Atlases which have less tech and cost $40 more. Why buy Contacts when I sell Hurrithanes. More tech in those too and $20 cheaper. Contact pros are the only thing I'll sell, and solely cause they're fucking light as shit. And for the record I like the way those ride, toe strap/ratchet as exceptions of course.

Also talking shit and giving facts are not the same thing. I tell people exactly what I say here. But with a more diplomatic tone.
What the hell do you mean "less tech"?!? So you're saying the upgraded asym straps and whole design of the binding (new baseplate and highback) is "less tech"? Please elaborate. And "Why buy Contacts when I sell Hurrithanes?" Because it is a WHOLE different binding.
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I was just throwing a number out there for the amount of improvement. It's just a guess though.

Shralp, however, really does like it stiff. That's a fact.
Hey Phony, can we keep our personal relationship facts off the interwebz? Thx.


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Which are all mostly unnecessary. Union bindings have what you need, without all that bullshit (like someone pointed out) that you don't need.
Yup, canted footbeds are unnecessary. Thats why every brand except Union and maybe Drake will offer some form of it by next year. Yup, the ENTIRE industry is wrong. And so is science. Hinged strap? Its one of the most useful things on the market. And I also forgot to mention the dual adjustable toe strap. You can asjust the top stand independently of the bottom one.

How can an entire bindings baseplate be considered tech? Its not even new this year. And 3 pin ratchets ARE better. They make things smoother and keep them from binding. Something Union neglects with the toe ratchet.

And that asym strap makes no sense. For one its bairly asym and again its contrary the the entire rest of the industry who put the fatter side under the ratchet.

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