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Old 11-08-2012, 03:15 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Thanks for the clear explaining! i meaned the 2012 Cartels, so the ones from last year.

This one, in black: Burton Cartel Est 11/12 is online beschikbaar in de Blue Tomato Shop
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I have no idea where this theory that "matching" board and binding ratings came from. It's a huge, huge generalization, and shouldn't be used.
You ever rode stiff bindings on a wet noodle or vice versa?
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You ever rode stiff bindings on a wet noodle or vice versa?
Yup.

90% rider, 10% board.

Get with the program here. There are no "rules" that say you can't put stiffer bindings on a softer board, it all comes down to personal preferences. If someone wants to rock Diodes or Chargers on an Artifact or Horrorscope, more power to them. That's not what I would personally ride, but who is to say that set up doesn't work for someone else?

We're all just sliding down frozen water on pieces of wood anyway..
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I'm quite new into snowboarding (1 week austria and 3 times indoor) and i always rented a board before, so i don't know how they gonna feel etc. but i read good things about the cartels..
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I'm quite new into snowboarding (1 week austria and 3 times indoor) and i always rented a board before, so i don't know how they gonna feel etc. but i read good things about the cartels..
You won't be able to tell a difference between the bindings, unless you rode them back-to-back-to-back and even then, I don't think you'd notice anything just due to you being a newer rider.

Any of those bindings will be awesome for you, and they'll all last a few seasons as well. It just comes down to what you personally want to get and how much you want to spend.

You can't go wrong with any 3 of those bindings, but I think you'll really like the Cartels. Like I said, they're not one of Burton's best selling bindings for no reason.

Have fun!
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Old 11-08-2012, 03:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I'd be pretty confident that any est binder you choose will do the job. As for color, in my experience Burton's colors tend to be pretty consistent within a model year.

And just a note: this year's Missions have the high back from last year's Cartels. The two bindings are pretty similar, with the Cartels having slightly upgraded straps and buckles, and the Missions being a hair softer.

Also, remember that most other binding companies have adapter plates that allow for "normal" disk bindings to interface with the Burton ICS deal.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:23 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Maybe I'm talking about a few yrs ago tech, but I thought mission and cartel had a superstrap and the custom had some basic ankle strap? Basically, the Mission and Cartel are more comfortable compared to the Custom. And based on the OPs experience and what Alkasqualik said, they will all feel the same unless you ride them back to back and compare.

I'm sure you'll have fun on the snow with any of those bindings you choose.
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Custom does have a different strap it's called the Lush strap. I haven't ridden it, but I know the superstrap and asym superstrap on the missions/malavitas and cartels are pretty darn comfy.

Also, Alka is right, you can make any binding work on your board (I do prefer to be on the stiffer side than the softer side though), it's preference. There's no ideal matching.

I say missions/cartels. The hero you have has squeezebox so it can't be softer than the hero I demo'd in 2011 and the bindings on those were the Missions which, that year were pretty stiff...rode great.

Not to be a cynic, but you'll also be able to sell those more easily than the customon the ebays or craigslists or right here, if you want different bindings.
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Old 11-08-2012, 04:58 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes! thanks for all the replies here, great!
I just ordered the 2012 cartels (black, large).
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We're all just sliding down frozen water on pieces of wood anyway..
Not I!!! No wood in my board.
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